On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, John Summerfield wrote: > > Okay, one smartass replied to me and stated that > > "Your adds are not welcome here.". Obviously my > > posting was _way_too_flashy_ :( > > He's not worth a piece of doggy-do; don't worry about him. > Sure, I won't, just wanted to point out to list that it was *not* spam :) > You might post the original to enigma-list if you haven't and send a > copy to Bero too for good measure. He may well put it on the rescue CD > (if it fits). > Enigma? ie 7.2 isn't that bit too late, looks like you didn't get it quite right yet. The online tools such as Mondo (Ignite-UX on HP-UX and the HP _Online_ Diagnostiscs I was drooling after) etc are definitely not only rescue-CD issues but instead online preparation tools for disaster(s) and *should be available all the time*. If you come from SunOS/Solaris/Linux/*BSD background you haven't had such tool, but with AIX you have mksysb, Irix you have backup/restore and Digital/Compaq True64 you have btcreate to start with. Offline diagnostics and rescue tools are nice and needed sometimes, but the goal is ofcourse keep systems running and less you have to use any offline (rescue) tools the better. Mondo/Ignite type rescue system is most efficient when you after initial system configuration, cut over to production and then after major upgrade you prepare the bootable rescue media (snapshot) with all your configurations and applications etc. Making bootable snapshots from system does not replace ofcourse making periodical backups with ordinary backup systems unless you have very static or small system, but you won't believe it how much easier the recovery is with HP-UX Ignite-UX than playing games with Solaris installation media and (ufs)restore before you see it... Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro HP/HP-UX and/or against Sun/Solaris, the both have the good sides, but my point is that Linux and free unices in general should go and find the best practises/ways developed in any platform rather than pushing the envelope alone. HTH, :-) riku ps. BTW, there is quite good site from backups at http://www.backupcentral.com/ -- [ This .signature intentionally left blank ]