Re: reiser4 (ccreg40): very slow mount, poor unlink performance, questions about compression modes

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On Wednesday 10 September 2014 at 22:17:15, Edward Shishkin wrote:	
> On 09/10/2014 09:00 PM, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > The preamble: recently I had to force-change my configuration (the old laptop
> > was stolen). What I have now is a combination of a tiny 16 GiB SSD and a huge
> > 1 TiB HDD.
> >
> > ...So I've placed my /home on HDD. Partition size is 800 GiB, formatting
> > options are "create=ccreg40,compress=gzip1,compressMode=latt" and I have a few
> > questions.
> >
> > 1. What is the recommended compression mode?
> 
> 
> The default one (conv).

OK, thanks.

> > More specifically, what is the default "conv" mode? What is its purpose, why is
> > it the default?
> 
> 
> In this mode intelligent switches take place in 2 interfaces:
> 1) in FILE interface (if the first 64K of the file are incompressible, then
>      management is passed to unix-file plugin forever);
> 2) in COMPRESSION interface (turn on/off compression transform
>      on a dynamic lattice).
> 
> In other compression modes switches take place only in COMPRESSION
> interface.
> 
> 
> > I'm asking, because I wasn't able to understand its purpose from code, and the
> > code itself looks hackish in some places (hardcoded fallback to extent-only
> > files,
> 
> 
> Actually, this is implementation of a compression mode, not a hardcoded
> fallback.
> 
> 
> >   hardcoded policy, hardcoded fallback to "latt" in many cases, etc).
> 
> 
> ditto

Yes, I understand that this is implementation and it doesn't have an obligation
to be configurable in every aspect... but still it feels somewhat strange.
E. g. why "extents only" formatting is forced when a file is decided to be
incompressible? Why the heuristic in FILE interface check (compressible only if
size can be reduced twice) is different from the one in COMPRESSION interface
(compressible if size can be reduced at all)?

(I'm sorry for too many questions. I'm just curious.)

> > 2. The mount time of a 800-GiB partition is >20 seconds. And with
> > dont_load_bitmap it's around 1-2 seconds. Why so much?
> 
> 
> By default all bitmap blocks are loaded to memory at mount time.
> Now calculate a number of bitmap blocks for 800-GiB partition that
> should be read from disk.

25 MiB of bitmaps. 20 seconds still looks strange...
Are the blocks specially processed? Don't see anything.

> >   Why other filesystems
> > have drastically less mount times? If they have an equivalent of
> > dont_load_bitmap enabled by default, why don't we do it?
> 
> 
> For historical reasons. I recommended to not use large partitions
> for reiser4, so there wasn't any need in this option.

OK...

> > 3. Given a directory tree with ~20k files of total size around 20 GiB,
> > its removal takes forever. From strace I see that a single unlink takes
> > ~1 second. Again, why so much? Is it related to my choice of "latt" compression
> > mode over the default "conv"?
> 
> 
> Yes, in particular.
> "latt" means that all file bodies are represented by fragments in 
> formatted nodes.

So... are all cryptcompress files stored in formatted nodes, without
any equivalent of extents?

> > 3a. I can reproduce the "directory not empty" bug :) Interestingly, it is
> > always the same directory under the aforementioned huge hierarchy. (I've
> > done the unpack-remove cycle a few times.)
> 
> 
> I've made a conclusion that this is caused by unexpected disappearing
> of a record, which represents a directory entry in the directory item
> (currently directory items are managed by cde ITEM plugin, aka "compound
> directory entries"). In the error path (ENOENT) the size of the directory is
> not decremented, which makes the directory undeletable. I still don't know
> who kills the entries. Special debugging info is needed to find/fix it.

What kind of information is needed?

Thanks for explanations and hints,
-- 
Ivan Shapovalov / intelfx /

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