katsumi liquer wrote: > Mark, re: bare metal; what they mean by that these days is just that > you install ESX as the root/core/main/host operating system for that > machine, wether it be virtual or physical. It's a very confusing term I'm not confused. As I keep trying to explain to people, I know what it means - the thing is that I am *now* running Linux on my home system, which I'm typing this email on, and want to install it on *that*. I am not about to go out and buy a new box, or even go out to buy a new hard drive, to install it on. <snip> > re: ESX & $$$ In general the way it works is that the core enterprise > VM server component, ie: the ESX kernel is available in a particular > flavor for free, and they call that flavor ESX 3i. It's free, but it > has a slightly different capability to matrix and makeup to the > tradition ESX 3.x server. For one thing it does not have a complete > userspace setup any more, and by default you can't really even access > a shell, altho it does have busybox hidden. > > the reality of the situation is that ESX is an extremely solid and > robust product, and in either form you will not be disappointed by > either the capacity it is able to suck from even a mild server > platform, but also that the stability and management are very > straight-forward and unified , at least to the degree that vmware is > the sole vendor of ESX kernel environments, and the support > implications that entails. Right. That's what I've been hearing for a while now, and it seems to me that once I set it up, creating the VMs and installing o/s's in those VM's, and then running them, will be pretty much the same as installing ESXi, then installing o/s's in VMs.... > > i support xen and esx, you don't need to look any farther than Amazon > EC2 for proof that xen is an intense and capable vm kernel, but i can > only speak for esx in terms of being dependable for years on end in > production, and enabling us to do fairly complex vlan/vswitch and > storage configurations and in %99 of the time, taking most if it > without missing a beat. As I said, I'd be willing to look at xen, but really don't have any real need to, since 99.9% of all the sysadmin ads I've seen for 3.5 months, if they mention virtualization, they say VMware. I think I've seen one? two? ads, in all that time, that mentioned xen. mark -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
