Well they may not be all that, but it does have a lot more rigor than say an MCSE. I thought the RHCE exam was pretty tough because of the written and practicals portion. I have actually considered it just because of the practical side would tend to be more credible than just a cram jam. I am not a sysadmin and do not do this stuff everyday, but would still like the cred just because I do work on it from an integration perspective. P. On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:59 -0700, Troy wrote: > Any manager that doesn't know the difference between a good sysadmin > and one with a bunch of certificates, is a manager you don't want to > work for. > > Having said that, if they're paying for it, you might as well take it. > My manager wanted me to take it, and it was the most ridiculous thing > I've ever seen. Now, anyone who boasts about the fact that they are > RHCE certified, gets put into a very special category in my book. > > > On Aug 22, 2008, at 6:24 AM, hike wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, mark <m.roth2006@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Johan Booysen wrote: > >>> My employer wants me to look into gaining the RHCE certification. > >> <snip> > >> Only if your employer is paying. Otherwise, well, we've had > >> discussions > >> here > >> before, and it's not more important than actually knowing/learning > >> the job > >> on > >> your own (books/co-workers/google HOWTOs/etc). > >> > >> mark > >> > >> -- > >> redhat-list mailing list > >> unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > >> > > > > > > MGRS are generally NOT technical. > > MGRS use certification, training classes as a way to judge their > > work-force. > > > > Certifications help MGRS within the business organization whether > > they are > > looking for status (I've got all RHCEs on my staff), or quick > > approval (all > > the engineers recommend), or avoiding nitpicking people (the RHCE > > all said > > this is the way to go). > > > > If you have certification, you help your MGR get her/his job > > accomplished! > > > > Certs may mean nothing to a sysadmin but certs are very important to > > your > > MGR. > > Don't you want to help your MGR accomplish his task, show support for > > her/him, etc.? > > > > Certs are a game that sysadmin canNOT afford to skip. > > > > On the plus side, certs will get you jobs and more money. > > My Solaris sysadmin Certification brings in at least $10K more a > > year. At > > my site, I am the highest paid sysadmin because of my certs (a college > > degree puts me in the senior category; the certs make me the biggest > > earner). The real UNIX guru, with 5-10 more years of experience and > > a much > > larger skill set, dreams of making what I make. (I recommended him > > for my > > current position; my employer picked little, old, certified me.) > > > > Skipping certs is a fool's game! > > > > > > I paid for my own RHCT training--class, hotel, car, meals, and took > > a week > > without pay. Passed the RHCT test. Put in on my company's website > > form. > > Now I am recognized as certified. > > > > If you need a cert, get it; if you have to pay for it, get it. It > > is your > > career not your MGR's or your employer's career. Just like college, > > once > > you get your bachelor's, you don't have to get it again and it is a > > constatnt source of money. (The $10K it cost me for college has > > provided > > $100Ks for me. Currently, it pays about $10K per year that similarily > > skilled sysadmins without a backelor's don't get.) > > > > Being penny wise and pound foolish is also a fool's game! > > > > Fools give bad advice. > > -- > > redhat-list mailing list > > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > -- Paul M. Whitney, VCP Sr. Systems Engineer Worldwide Information Network Systems (WINS) Office: 301.306.6115 Mobile: 410.493.9448 Email: whitneyp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pager: 1051178@xxxxxxxxxx -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
