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Magic file

Once upon a time, there was a simple text file named /etc/magic and it served a wonderful purpose. Elegant and easy to modify as well as use. Too elegant. Too easy. We musn't have THAT! Now, it's some sort of compiled file where the tools needed to extend and modify the file aren't on the standard Red Hat distribution. Does anyone know where those tools are and how to obtain them?


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: cron problem (m.roth2006@xxxxxxx)
   2. Re: cron problem (Ray Van Dolson)
   3. Re: cron problem (m.roth2006@xxxxxxx)
   4. bdc and qmail-scanner (Lord of Gore)
   5. Re: Soliciting Opinions Regarding File Systems (Nilesh Bansal)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri,  6 Apr 2007 12:15:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: <m.roth2006@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cron problem
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20070406121553.CAB32245@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Barry,

>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:41:33 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Barry Brimer <lists@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 m.roth2006@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Ok, folks, I'm going nuts. I've set up a cron job to run a script to back up Oracle. In the crontab entry, I've got it piping stdout and stderr to append to a logfile. It runs late every Thursday night.
>>
>> Well, allegedly.
>>
>> I find entries in /var/log/cron saying it ran... but there's no backup, and no log. Just this week, I added set -x in the script.
>>
>> Nada.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Oh, and yes, if I run it manually, it works just fine. The no output log *really* drives me nuts....
>
>Any chance that this script is relying on environment variables that are
>available in your current session, but would not be in the cron execution?
>Are you sourcing any needed environment in the script?  Is there anything
>in the email that cron sends to the user who owns the cron job that would
>give more information?

Setting all the ORACLE* in the script. When I run it manually as Oracle, it's fine, even if I haven't source oraenv. It's running as Oracle's cron job, and...

<mark gets irritated, and finally install mutt on the box - all that had been on was mail ("a friendly, comformable...." arrrghghghghgh)>

So, now I read oracle's email....
Right:
cron env is /bin/sh; and my backup script has #!/bin/bash as the first line, of course, so that's the shell environment.

/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `/home/oracle/dbbackup.sh >> /opt/oracle/backup/backup.log 2>>&1'

So it's a syntax error in the crontab entry... but *why*?
Ok, just went into Bourne, and it doesn't like 2>>&1. So, a simple question: won't it toast backup.log if I don't do that as an append - that is, if I do 2>&1, instead of 2>>&1?

     mark



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:30:48 -0700
From: Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cron problem
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20070406163048.GA28313@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> So, now I read oracle's email....
> Right:
> cron env is /bin/sh; and my backup script has #!/bin/bash as the first line, of course, so that's the shell environment.
>
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `/home/oracle/dbbackup.sh >> /opt/oracle/backup/backup.log 2>>&1'
>
> So it's a syntax error in the crontab entry... but *why*?
> Ok, just went into Bourne, and it doesn't like 2>>&1. So, a simple question: won't it toast backup.log if I don't do that as an append - that is, if I do 2>&1, instead of 2>>&1?

I think it should be alright with 2>&1.  You're using >> to append to
the backup.log previous to that and 2>&1 will just made stderr go to
stdout...

Give it a try and see.

Ray



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Message: 3
Date: Fri,  6 Apr 2007 12:34:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: <m.roth2006@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cron problem
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20070406123407.CAB40348@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:30:48 -0700
>From: Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson@xxxxxxxx>
>
>> So, now I read oracle's email....
>> Right:
>> cron env is /bin/sh; and my backup script has #!/bin/bash as the first line, of course, so that's the shell environment.
>>
>> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
>> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `/home/oracle/dbbackup.sh >> /opt/oracle/backup/backup.log 2>>&1'
>>
>> So it's a syntax error in the crontab entry... but *why*?
>> Ok, just went into Bourne, and it doesn't like 2>>&1. So, a simple question: won't it toast backup.log if I don't do that as an append - that is, if I do 2>&1, instead of 2>>&1?
>
>I think it should be alright with 2>&1.  You're using >> to append to
>the backup.log previous to that and 2>&1 will just made stderr go to
>stdout...
>
>Give it a try and see.

Thanks. I've just edited oracle's crontab, and we'll see what happens. In the meantime, waiting for next week, I think I'll do it manually (once most of the developers have left - this is a test box, btw), and then when it runs next week, I'll see if the log file remains.

If not, not a biggie.

    mark



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:51:44 +0300
From: Lord of Gore <lordofgore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: bdc and qmail-scanner
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <46167AA0.5080804@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I have an old machine with qmail on it. Clamdscan took a very long time
to scan files and I wanted to change the av scanner. I went for
bitdefender console. Indeed at a 14MB archive the time was tripled when
using clam.
Now... When qmail receives a mail it sends it to qmail scanner that
parses it and breaks it into a few files in a temporary directory.
When I send an email containing a virus archived with rar it passes the
scanner. Clam worked just fine. Now, for the kicky part:
I tinkered with the qmail-scanner script and changed it to show in
detail what it was doing and came up with the av scanner being called
like this:

<pathto>bdc --all --arc --mail <pathto>tmpdir. (all means all files, arc
means to parse archives and mail to treat files as mail)

Its output shows that there isn't any virus. I got around to make a copy
of the files that emerged after such an operation and issued the *same*
command and bang: the scanner saw the virus.
Now of course a few of you will say there must be a difference. Well
there isn't. I manually modified that script considering that I'm either
stupid, sick or blind and can't see something. It just doesn't perform
the same way. Well now I want to resolve the problem but seem to be
missing a button...
Any thoughts?

10ks



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:23:06 -0400
From: "Nilesh Bansal" <nileshbansal@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Soliciting Opinions Regarding File Systems
To: "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
        <f36128690704061923o71a3e4bbia044fbc3d9e55c3b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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So what is the problem with ext3 (except for the limitation on largest
possible filesystem size). I mean, will I have a difference in read or
write speed/performance of the two filesystems?

thanks
Nilesh

On 4/6/07, m.roth2006@xxxxxxx <m.roth2006@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 09:58:13 -0500
> >From: "Jim Canfield" <jcanfield@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Sean McGlynn wrote:
> >>
> >> We are considering what file system to use for an
> >> enterprise deployment of Linux.  We're reviewing EXT3,
> >> Reiser, XFS, and JFS.  The server will deal with a fair
> >I second XFS.  While it's not an enterprise example - I use
> <snip>
> XFS/LVM at
> >home to store all my DVDs (3-5gig files)and have no problems.
> >Considering the file system is a very mature and handles large files
> >well I think it's a no brainer.
>
> I've started a home system on Reiser, since that's what the default is with SuSE, and I've been *very* pleased, since my wife's (not old!) m/b looks to be failing (we won't talk about the literal lightening strike on the house, and the older UPS it was on...), but the damn thing freezes, sometimes several times a day, sometimes not for days. I can *not* get her to log off every night, and so she'll have many windows up with OO, kmail, and konqueror, and when it does freeze, the *only* way out is the hardware reset switch. She's lost almost nothing, and all the windows come back up, all documents are recovered, etc.
>
> So, take that as a rather severe test of robustness of Reiser.
>
>     mark
>
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