Hi! I use Fedora 2 and Up2date. Today, Up2date told me a new version of pppd is available. Great! I told it to get it. It did, but as it tried to install it, it coughed and died, telling me that initscripts-<whatever> required pppd < 2.3.whatever, unresolvable circular dependency, won't go any further. Points: 1. I thought up2date took care of circular dependencies. 2. I thought the folks putting updates into the up2date queue would have tried downloading themselves pppd before letting the world try. Meta-points: 1. I don't see an easy way to report bugs in the up2date system. 2. Bugzilla is nice, but it's too big. Fedora has only been around a little while, and searching for Fedora bugs in Bugzilla is an exercise in banging one's head against one's wall. 3. Up2date has a problem with its mirrors not all being up to date; sometimes the taskbar icon says I need to update, but up2date says no. 4. Isn't up2date the equivalent of a DOS attack on the up2date servers? Meta-solutions (solutions don't correspond to points): 1. Copy Bugzilla to a second server, but leave the database behind. Call it the Fedora Bugzilla or something. 2. Bugs exist in rpms, and are fixed by swapping in newer (bug-free) rpms. This is what up2date is doing. The bug tracking system should match this model and have rpm names+version numbers as primary keys. This is not yet being done. 3. Put a help and/or bugzilla button in Up2date. 4. Write a script to get a recursive directory listing of all the mirrors. Remove mirrors from dns until they're up to date and the master control files have the right md5sums. 5. Have a DNS entry that announces what version the latest up2date rpm list is: % dig latest-rpmlist.fedora.redhat.com txt ;; ANSWER SECTION: latest-rpmlist.fedora.redhat.com 86400 IN TXT "Last update 2004-07-01, this message updated 2004-07-09, mac: 0401f384" (Because DNS is distributed, cached, scales well, has been tested, and is already in place) Solutions: 1. Release a new version of initscripts with updated requirements which will undo the current pppd-initscripts conflict I am (and soon presumably *everyone else* will be) having. Thanks! -- Penelope Fudd <kernel@xxxxxxx> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
