Michael, We've also seen our share of bad RAID cards, but most of those affected external disk arrays. I would think (hope) that if this was a RAID issue, you'd see all sorts of warnings at least via dmesg and hopefully output to the console (is /var/log/messages on its own partition, or part of /?) . We've purchased a similar number of 1750s in the same time period, but haven't seen these issues (the 1650s seemed to have almost constant problems, though). I suspect that Marvin's issue is toxic kernel (Marvin: since you're using a variant of the 2.4.9 kernel, I'm assuming you're running RHEL 2.1), but I'm not sure about yours (yours sounds to be much more serious than Marvin's issue, since you end up losing the whole filesystem through subsequent fsck "fixes"). -- Chris Faehl Hosting Manager, RightNow Technologies -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Halligan Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 2:19 PM To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3? Our ext3 mount options : LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 Nothing really special. We have had two or three bad raid cards, and a couple of failed motherboards out of about 30-35 servers we've ordered in the past 6 months.. I'm starting to lean towards hardware, because I think I have another two failed motherboards (thanks dell), but I can't find any evidence to point towards hardware right now. In terms of disks, I've done bad block checks with fsck, returning no errors, and I've done consistency checks on the PERC card, also finding no problems. For backups I'm using Rsnapshot (http://www.rsnapshot.org) .. It's basically just rsync doing incremental backups. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Faehl, Chris Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:00 AM To: mblackburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; General Red Hat Linux discussion list Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3? What are you using to perform backups? We're running PowerEdge 1750s, 2650s, and 6650s using RHEL 3 ES rather than WS, and have not seen this issue using Veritas NetBackup. Are you using any ext3 options on root? It sounds like you're experiencing a batch of bad RAID cards (or as Marvin indicated, maybe a bad batch of disks?) -- Chris Faehl Hosting Manager, RightNow Technologies -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Blackburn Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:05 AM To: 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list' Subject: RE: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3? We have had some strange problems during backups also. The file system starts reporting errors and the system hangs. A reboot fixes this. We have had this problem on 2 dell 2650's. There answer was to replace All the disks in the system with another make. They really don't have a clue as to what is happening. ------------------ Marvin Blackburn Systems Administrator Glen Raven "He's no failure. He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Halligan > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:21 PM > To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: EXT3 problems in Enterprise Workstation 3? > > I've had about three servers in the past week lose their root > partitions during nightly backup.. It only loses the root > partition, and it's rather strange. It doesn't necessarily > lose the data in the root partition, but it might as well, > since fsck ends up deleting all the inodes. These are all > Dell PowerEdge 1750s with two mirrored 36GB scsi drives on > Dell's Perc/4I card. > > I've given up trying to figure out who to talk to at dell for > the worthless support we purchased on these was hoping maybe > somebody else was running into this? I've dug through ERRATA > and haven't seen any > ext3 bugs, but at this point I'm unsure what to do. The > hardware seems fine, but I won't rule out the possibility > that these raid cards suck. > > Michael T. Halligan > -------------------- > Mypoints.com > Infrastructure Engineer > 415-615-1160 > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subjectunsubscribe > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
