It would appear that RH is not striking out on any new ground. Rather, they are resorting to the old "business models" of the proprietary arena and/or other failed models. You're right, I've seen a striking resemblance to Caldera lately: the abandonment of the end user, for instance, in favor of corporate customers. They're EOL policies have been arguably in poor judgment too. They seem to be uneasy with the growth they have and are scrambling to put a template together to structure their customer base into a revenue stream. As such, they are more focused on that template than on the customer. This is why a growing number are dishearted not only in the end user base and OS community, but those who have been customers. Corporate customers are having a hard time with their licensing model, for instance. They seem to be taking a "Microsoft Lite" approach to their business model. <<JAV>> ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Vince Scimeca <vscimeca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:13:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Redhat Professional Workstation <-- is only for 1 year > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:41, rickf@xxxxxxx wrote: > > Ed Wilts <ewilts@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:13:13AM -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > > > > > > > > Last impression I got on this topic, Redhat was still deciding what'll happen > > > > to RHPW after 1 year. A lot of speculations here was suggested that it will > > > > have 5 yr life time since it's based on RHEL ES. > > > > Apparently that's not the case. RHPW is not renewable after 1 year, that > > means > > > > you have to upgrade with all the fun of reinstall and everything. Plus, it > > > > says there is no "supported" upgrade path to RHEL. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? > > > > http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/ > > > > > > > > I am not happy. > > > > > > I'm friggin' hostile and *will* be following up on this. > > > > > > Place right foot on ground in front of you. Grasp revolver firmly in both > > hands, aim at center of right foot. Pull trigger firmly. Repeat until it > > stops hurting. > > > > Did Red Hat just hire the people who used to make marketing decisions at > > Caldera (now SCO, of infamous reputation)? This is astonishingly like the > > series of business/marketing decisions that totally decimated the customer > > base, corporate and individual, there. This is, bluntly, suicidal. I like > > what I've seen of professional workstation overall, and was preparing to > > purchase it. Now it appears to be a stillborn infant, and I not only won't > > purchase, but will strongly advise against the purchase under these conditions. > > > > Rick Forrister > > > > -- > > I have been a very satisfied Red Hat user since 7.2, not as long as > most, but long enough to know that i really liked what Red Hat > offered as far stability, support and features. With all that has > transpired with Red Hat over the past few months and following the > discussions on these lists I figured my options were to goto Fedora > or RHPW. I tried out some of the beta's of Fedora and just wasn't > confident enough to go with it on my workstations. I was about a > click away from purchasing RHPW, and after seeing this I am glad I > held off. I unfortunately decided to go with Suse 9 Professional. > I will use this for a release and see where all this Red Hat / > Fedora stuff is when it comes time to upgrade again. I have to say > that my heart is with Red Hat and I never had an issue paying for a > top notch product, but I don't get a comfortable feeling that I use > to have with their product and it seems that Red Hat's heart is not > with the people who have supported their product for so long. I > hope to one day go back to Red Hat. Just my 2 cents. > > Vince > -- > ______ > Vince Scimeca - Senior Technology Manager > Jupitermedia Corp. > vscimeca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ______ > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ------- End of Original Message ------- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
