Hello,
This is the second Redhat server I have used for our clients and I am
quite frustrated with it. The other one is Redhat 7.2 which has been
(relatively) okay. I am so scared by this experience with Redhat 9.0
(and not meeting my client's expectations) that I am considering to 'cut
my losses' and switch to FreeBSD, Solaris, or (maybe) RH 7.2.
In short: I cannot get much of anything to compile without warnings,
errors, and configure scripts failing to work. Here is just a short
list, none of which occur on my FreeBSD, RH 7.2, or Solaris systems:
#1. qmail-1.03 - won't compile, "undefined reference to errno"
#2. php-4.3.1 - won't compile when --with-mysql is specified "undefined
reference to errno" (presumably this is fixed in the CVS version of PHP,
but I cannot really consider running a CVS version of anything in a
production environment)
#3. php-4.3.1 - when --with-mysql=/usr is specified (causing PHP to not
use it's internal mysql code), I get the following errors:
A. warning: implicit declaration of function `getpgid'
B. warning: implicit declaration of function `pread'
C. warning: implicit declaration of function `pwrite'
D. the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp`
#4. apache-1.3.29 - the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp
#5. htdig-3.1.6 - configure fails 'checking for fstream.h'... (yes the
g++ rpm is installed).. Making me wonder:
A. Are configure scripts for other things failing to detect header
files and 'falling back' to some deprecated APIs?
B. Could that be what the tmpname error is related to?
C. How can I possibly rely upon this development environment?
... As I am sure anyone with a large number of servers to manage is
aware, having odd development environments which require 'special
handling' is a nightmare to deal with. It blows my mind that I have
only started to configure this server and so far 5 out 5 software builds
have 'failed' (by my standards) to configure, compile, or install properly.
This is a fairly stock Redhat installation with the following (of
interest) RPM's installed:
libstdc++-3.2.2-5
gcc-objc-3.2.2-5
glibc-kernheaders-2.4-8.10
gcc-3.2.2-5
gcc-c++-3.2.2-5
gcc-gnat-3.2.2-5
libgcc-3.2.2-5
gcc-java-3.2.2-5
binutils-2.13.90.0.18-9
MAKEDEV-3.3.2-5
libtool-1.4.3-5
libstdc++-devel-3.2.2-5
redhat-release-9-3
(I may have missed a few, there are a lot of rpm's installed, but I tried
to pick out the ones which seemed relevant to the development environment).
My specific questions are:
1. Am I doing something wrong trying to configure/compile this software?
2. Should I consider the installation of RH 9 to be suspect at this point?
3. Is there something wrong with the RH 9 development environment?
4. If I stick with RH Linux, should I downgrade to 7.2?
5. What are your thoughts on RH's long-term strategy in this area? Is
RH 10 going to introduce the same magnitude of problems all over again?
Should integrators/administrators anticipate these sort of problems
(which don't seem to exist to this level in other OSes) when upgrading?
Sorry if I seem overly bitter - I've been fighting with this all weekend
and have now missed a very important deadline as a result. These
packages I am trying to compile comprise about 10% of the software I need
to install on our servers and if I can't even get through these I can
only imagine what lies in store for me as I move on to the more complex
ones which are not updated as frequently....
Thanks!
Greg Saylor
Senior Systems Integrator
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