Re: Observation on NOHZ_FULL

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On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 07:55:37AM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 12:54:58AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> ...
> > >> Slightly related, but one of the things we are wondering also is how
> > >> much of the overhead for your nohz-full and lazy-RCU test (on top of
> > >> baseline - that is just CONFIG_HZ=1000 without nohz-full or nocbs) is
> > >> because of just using NOCB. Uladsizlau mentioned he might run a test
> > >> for comparing along those lines as well.
> > > 
> > > Just to clarify, "lazy rcu on" results are just with rcu_nocb=all and
> > > lazy RCUs enabled (and HZ=1000), so without nohz_full.
> > > 
> > > If I enable only nohz_full=all (without rcu_nocb) I see something like
> > > this:
> > 
> > Ok. I did want to mention nohz_full implies rcu_nocb on the same CPUs as well.
> > 
> > Its also mentioned in the boot param docs on the last line of the description:
> > 
> >         nohz_full=      [KNL,BOOT,SMP,ISOL]
> >                         The argument is a cpu list, as described above.
> >                         In kernels built with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, set
> >                         the specified list of CPUs whose tick will be stopped
> >                         whenever possible. The boot CPU will be forced outside
> >                         the range to maintain the timekeeping.  Any CPUs
> >                         in this list will have their RCU callbacks offloaded,
> >                         just as if they had also been called out in the
> >                         rcu_nocbs= boot parameter.
> 
> Ah I didn't realize that, it definitely makes sense, thanks for
> clarifying it.
> 
> Then basically in the results that I posted the difference is
> "nohz_full=all+rcu_nocb=all" vs "rcu_nocb=all+lazy_RCU=on".
> 
So, you say that a hrtimer_interrupt() handler takes more time in case
of lazy + nocb + rcu_nocb=all and for nohz_full + rcu_nocb=all it faster?
Could you please clarify this? I will try to measure from my side!

I have done some basic research about hrtimer_interrupt() latency on my
HW with latest Linux kernel. I have compared below cases:

case a: 1000HZ + lazy + nocb_all_cpus
case b: 1000HZ + nocb_all_cpus

I used "ftrace" to measure time(in microseconds). Steps:

echo 0 > tracing_on
echo function_graph > current_tracer
echo funcgraph-proc > trace_options
echo funcgraph-abstime > trace_options
echo hrtimer_interrupt > set_ftrace_filter

fio --rw=write --bs=1M --size=1G --numjobs=8 --name=worker --time_based --runtime=50&

echo 1 > tracing_on; sleep 10; echo 0 > tracing_on

data is based on 10 seconds collection:

<case a>
     6  2102 ############################################################
     8  2079 ############################################################
    10  1464 ##########################################
     7   897 ##########################
     9   625 ##################
    12   490 ##############
    13   479 ##############
    11   289 #########
     5   249 ########
    14   124 ####
    15    72 ###
    16    41 ##
    17    24 #
     4    22 #
    18    12 #
    22     2 #
    19     1 #
<case a>

<case b>
     9  1658 ############################################################
    13  1308 ################################################
    12  1224 #############################################
    10   972 ####################################
     8   703 ##########################
    14   595 ######################
    15   571 #####################
    11   525 ###################
    17   350 #############
    16   235 #########
     7   214 ########
     4    73 ###
     5    68 ###
     6    54 ##
    20     9 #
    18     9 #
    19     6 #
    33     1 #
     3     1 #
    28     1 #
    27     1 #
    25     1 #
    22     1 #
    21     1 #
<case b>

I do not see the difference, there is a nose of 1/2/3 microseconds diff.

Thank you!

--
Uladzislau Rezki




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