On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:50:50PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:47 PM Wols Lists <antlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 11/08/20 20:19, Michael Fritscher wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > if you really want to use these tiny 2 TB HDDs - yes, RAID 6 (2x - the > > > second for the backup system on a physically different location) is a > > > good choice. > > > > > > But: If you can, buy some 8-12 TB HDDs and forget the old rusty tiny > > > HDDs. You'll save a lot at the system - and power. > > > > > I'm looking at one of these ... > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST8000DM004-Barracuda-internal-Silver/dp/B075WYBQXJ/ref=pd_ybh_a_8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WF1CTS2K9RWY96D1RENJ > > > > Note that it IS a shingled drive, so fine for backup, much less so for > > anything else. > > How can you tell? From the spec, I can't find anything that indicates > it. Let alone which of three varieties it is. > https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/barracuda-new/en-us/docs/100805918d.pdf You can't from the spec[1], but you have this one[2] in the wake of WD Red started to use SMR without telling anyone. [1] https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/15/seagate-2-4-and-8tb-barracuda-and-desktop-hdd-smr/ [2] https://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/cmr-smr-list/ -- Kai Stian Olstad PS: Sorry Chris, you get this twice, I forgot reply-to-all.