Re: Cannot fix Current_Pending_Sector even after check and repair

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On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 11:04:21AM +0000, Tim Small wrote:
> I've seen this a few times.  Sometimes there is a pending sector, but
> it's not user-addressable, sometimes the firmware seems to get the count
> wrong.
> You could try doing a full-self-test and see if that terminates without
> error.

See below

> If you can temporarily take the drive out of service, you could also try
> doing a secure erase using hdparm, to see if that gets the count to zero.

I can wipe the whole drive, but this puts me in degraded mode for a
while without actually needing to be from what I can tell, so it's not
my first choice.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:05:02PM +0000, Jorge Bastos wrote:
> Same, especially with WD drives, they appear to be false positives, if
> you can take the disk offline a full disk write will usually get rid
> of them.

I see. So somehow reading all the sectors with hdrecover does not
trigger anything, but dd'ing 0s over the entire drive would reset this?

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 05:27:47PM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> Oh and talking of "especially WD" and especially Green, such transient errors
> are a a sure symptom of rust developing on PCB contact pads:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTt_yjYYQ8
> 
> E.g. Hitachi doesn't have this issue (they have drops of solder on each
> contact pad); not much experience with Seagate; and WD themselves later
> improved the design of this connection (redesigned type seen at least on a 6TB
> WD Red).

But wouldn't that show real errors when I'm reading the whole drive?
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     21804         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21788         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21765         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21742         -
# 5  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       10%     21731         3457756336
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21717         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21693         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21670         -
# 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21646         -
#10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21623         -
#11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21599         -
#12  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21575         -
#13  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       10%     21562         2905616752
#14  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21551         -
#15  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21527         -
#16  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21503         -
#17  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21479         -
#18  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21455         -
#19  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21431         -
#20  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     21408         -
#21  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     21398         -
2 of 2 failed self-tests are outdated by newer successful extended offline self-test # 1

That said my pending sectors is still 9:
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       9

This is still perplexing. Would a full offline test verify every sector?

Thanks,
Marc
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