On 13 Sep 2017, Reindl Harald uttered the following: > Am 13.09.2017 um 01:30 schrieb Nix: >> ext2 is probably too old (it's not maintained much any more) > > sorry, but when you are talking about betrayed filesystems above and > then take ext2, a non journaled filesystem which takes ages for fsck, On slow links like USB2, the overhead of throwing heaps of metadata into the journal across such a slow link often dominates any overhead from fsck, particularly if the filesystem is usually unmounted (as is often also true of backup filesystems) so is unlikely to benefit from a journal anyway. Of course this depends on the backup model. bup doesn't trigger many metadata updates (a few huge files): the late lamented obnam and rdiff-backup trigger lots. Nonetheless, fs/ext2 is almost unmaintained these days, and bugs are slowly creeping back in. fs/ext4 can take up its duties perfectly well these days, reading and writing both ext4-sans-journal and traditional ext2 filesystems perfectly well. One person having no problems with a filesystem as new as btrfs does not mean the filesystem is reliable enough to use for backup. The reliability bar for such filesystems is far higher than that for fses in daily use! (The required-feature bar is often also much lower. All they have to do is store stuff that rarely changes and not lose it!) > in your mouth.... Oh yes, it's Reindl, destroyer of mailing list civility everywhere. How wonderful it isn't to find you here. I can't even tell what 'in your mouth' *means* in this context, but I'm fairly sure it's meant to be offensive, simply because *everything* you say is meant that way. Are you arguing that ext2 is well-maintained, and thus should be used, or that it is unjournalled and thus should not be used, or that it is unjournalled and thus less reliable, or that fsck is slow and therefore the filesystem is unreliable? God knows, and I'll never find out... because you are going back in my otherwise-empty killfile. However *did* you get out? (Probably it happened after you became the first person in the history of the spamassassin list to go into a moderation queue.) I encourage everyone else who's had enough of Reindl to killfile him as well. 80% of what he says is wrong, spoken in tones of great authority, but thankfully he undermines his misinformation by being so thoroughly unpleasant that nobody wants to follow his instructions. The real problem is that he's just as viciously nasty to newbies seeking help, and they won't know to killfile him... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
