Re: [PATCH V4 00/13] MD: a caching layer for raid5/6

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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 02:06:41PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 20:16:17 -0700 Shaohua Li <shli@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:12:34PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:45:04 -0700 Shaohua Li <shli@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 02:36:56PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Yes it does.  Having a single sort of metadata block is an important
> > > > > part of the goal.  How the code actually chooses to use these is a
> > > > > separate issue that can change harmlessly.
> > > > 
> > > > Taking a close look to reuse MD superblock for caching. It turns out to
> > > > be quite hacky. Suppose I use md_update_sb to update superblock when we
> > > > checkpoint the log. So I update corresponding fields of mddev
> > > > (resync_offset, recovery_offset). In md_update_sb, I must add a bunch of
> > > > 'if (caching_disk) xxx' as raid disks shouldn't store the
> > > > resync_offset/recovery_offset. Or I can add a new cache_update_sb, but I
> > > > thought I must add the same hack code if we don't duplicate a lot of
> > > > code.
> > > 
> > > in md_update_sb, in the loop:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	/* First make sure individual recovery_offsets are correct */
> > > 	rdev_for_each(rdev, mddev) {
> > > 		if (rdev->raid_disk >= 0 &&
> > > 		    mddev->delta_disks >= 0 &&
> > > 		    !test_bit(In_sync, &rdev->flags) &&
> > > 		    mddev->curr_resync_completed > rdev->recovery_offset)
> > > 				rdev->recovery_offset = mddev->curr_resync_completed;
> > > 
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > add something like:
> > >                else if (rdev->is_cache)
> > >                         rdev->recovery_offset =
> > >                         mddev->cache->latest_checkpoint
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In super_1_sync, where the code:
> > > 
> > > 	if (rdev->raid_disk >= 0 &&
> > > 	    !test_bit(In_sync, &rdev->flags)) {
> > > 		sb->feature_map |=
> > > 			cpu_to_le32(MD_FEATURE_RECOVERY_OFFSET);
> > > 		sb->recovery_offset =
> > > 			cpu_to_le64(rdev->recovery_offset);
> > > 		if (rdev->saved_raid_disk >= 0 && mddev->bitmap)
> > > 			sb->feature_map |=
> > > 				cpu_to_le32(MD_FEATURE_RECOVERY_BITMAP);
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > is, add something like
> > > 	else if (rdev->is_a_cache_disk) {
> > >               sb->feature_map |= MD_FEATURE_IMA_CACHE;
> > >               sb->recovery_offset = cpu_to_le64(rdev->recovery_Offset);
> > >         }
> > > 
> > > or just make the original code a little more general - I'm not sure
> > > exactly how you flag the cache device.
> > > 
> > > You don't need to do this every time you checkpoint the log.  The
> > > pointer just needs to point to somewhere in the log so that the
> > > start/end can be found (each metadata block points to the next one).
> > > You could leave it until the log wraps completely, though that probably
> > > isn't ideal.
> > > 
> > > So when you checkpoint the log, if the ->recovery_offset of the cache
> > > device is more than (say) 25% behind the new checkpoint location, just
> > > set MD_CHANGE_PENDING and wake the md thread.
> > > 
> > > I don't see that as particularly hackish.
> > 
> > The policy above about when superblock should be written is fine with
> > me, but I'd like to focus on where/how superblock should be written
> > here. I'd say exporting a structure of cache (the
> > cache->latest_checkpoint) to generic MD layer is very hackish.
> 
> OK, get the cache code to write the desired value into the
> recovery_offset field, so the md code only has to look at that.
> The core md code does still need to know there is a cache, and which is
> the cache device - it cannot be completely unaware...
> 
> > md_update_sb writes all raid disks, that's bad since we just want to
> > update cache disk.
> 
> How bad?  How often?  Would you really be able to notice?
> 
> And having a per-device "update superblock" flag is not completely out
> of the question.  RAID10 could benefit from the clean/dirty state being
> localized to the device which was actually dirty.
> 
> >                    Overloading some fields of MD superblock and using
> > them with some 'if (cache)' stuff is not natural way too.
> 
> If we could foresee everything, we could assign everything its own
> field.  But unfortunately I didn't.  That is why we have feature bits.
> Different feature bits mean different fields have different meanings.
> 
> 
> >                                                           I don't
> > understand why you object adding a superblock for cache. The advantage
> > is it's self contained. And there is nothing about
> > complexity/maintaince, as we can store the most necessary fields into
> > the superblock.
> 
> Because there is precisely 1 number that needs to be stored in the
> superblock, and there seems no point having a superblock just to store
> one number.
> It isn't much extra complexity, but any extra thing is still an extra
> thing.
> Having the data section of the log device containing just a log is
> elegant.  Elegant is good.
> If we decided that keeping two copies for superblocks was a good idea
> (which I think it is, I just haven't created a "v1.3" layout yet), then
> re-using the main superblock for the head-of-log pointer would instantly
> give us two copies of that as well.

I think I need 2 fields to find log head/tail in recovery. Currently
cache superblock records checkpoint disk position (log tail) and
checkpoint sequence number, which can be used to find log head. Just
recording log tail doesn't work well (it might work, for example,
zeroing sectors before log head, so we can identify log head. But it's
really ugly and not efficient). I only found recovery_offset can be
overloaded. Do you have idea other fileds can be overloaded in MD
superblock?

Thanks,
Shaohua
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