>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Chris> I think this is a pretty craptastic thing for a vendor to do to Chris> users. It doesn't matter that the overwhelming majority will buy Chris> the product as a unit, and never remove it. It means some users Chris> will need esoteric knowledge to recover their own data, a Chris> recovery from data loss that's induced by ill conceived product Chris> behavior. Removing the physical drive from the USB enclosure is getting pretty far away from "intended purpose". I don't disagree that it's useful and that I've done so in the past. But it is purely coincidental that this particular recovery scenario has been possible at all. We are starting to see drives where there is no physical SATA interface on the PCB, the drive terminates in a USB connector. And with impending disk recording technologies, detaching a drive from any host-facing logic will definitely be a thing of the past. -- Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html