Re: Triple parity and beyond

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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 8:46 PM, John Williams wrote:
>> For myself or any machines I managed for work that do not need high
>> IOPS, I would definitely choose triple- or quad-parity over RAID 51 or
>> similar schemes with arrays of 16 - 32 drives.
>
> You must see a week long rebuild as acceptable...

It would not be a problem if it did take that long, since I would have
extra parity units as backup in case of a failure during a rebuild.

But of course it would not take that long. Take, for example, a 24 x
3TB triple-parity array (21+3) that has had two drive failures
(perhaps the rebuild started with one failure, but there was soon
another failure). I would expect the rebuild to take about a day.

>> on a subject Adam Leventhal has already
>> covered in detail in an article "Triple-Parity RAID and Beyond" which
>> seems to match the subject of this thread quite nicely:
>>
>> http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1670144
>
> Mr. Leventhal did not address the overwhelming problem we face, which is
> (multiple) parity array reconstruction time.  He assumes the time to
> simply 'populate' one drive at its max throughput is the total
> reconstruction time for the array.

Since Adam wrote the code for RAID-Z3 for ZFS, I'm sure he is aware of
the time to restore data to failed drives. I do not see any flaw in
his analysis related to the time needed to restore data to failed
drives.
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