Re: md RAID with enterprise-class SATA or SAS drives

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On 11/05/2012 00:49, Roberto Spadim wrote:
i have dell servers and  i use raid1 in every servers just raid10 or
raid0 are in hardware because hotswap with hardware is easier to
implement, but if mdraid could do the job, i don´t see why use hardware
raid devices (just if they have batery)


I think for simple situations, such as just wanting a straight mirror of two disks, then hardware raid provided by the supplier is often a good choice. As you say, it can make hotswap easier - you get things like little red and green lights on the disk drives. And the vendor supports it and knows how it works. Also if you've got a more serious hardware with BBWC or similar features, then these features may be the deciding points.

But there is no doubt that md raid is a lot more flexible than any other raid system, it is often faster (especially for smaller setups - raid10,far being a prime example), and the money you save on raid cards can be spent on extra disks, UPS, etc.

One thing that may be an advantage either way is ease of configuration, monitoring, maintenance, and transfer of disks between systems. With md raid, you have a consistent system that is independent of the hardware and setup, while every hardware raid system has its own proprietary tools, setup, hardware, monitoring software, etc. So this is often a win for md raid - but if you support several hardware raid arrays, and use the same vendor for them all, then you have a consistent system there too.



2012/5/10 David Brown <david.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:david.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>

    On 10/05/12 23:15, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

        On 5/10/2012 8:51 AM, Phil Turmel wrote:

            Hardware RAID cards usually offer battery-backed write
            cache, which is
            very valuable in some applications.  I don't have a need for
            that kind
            of performance, so I can't speak to the details.  (Is Stan H.
            listening?)


        Yes, I'm here to drop the hammer, and start a flame war. ;)
          I've been
        lurking and trying to stay out of the fray, but you "keep
        dragging me
        back in!" --Michael Corleone

        I find the mere existence of this thread a bit comical, as with all
        others that have preceded it.  I made the comment on this list quite
        some time ago that md raid is mostly used by hobbyists, and took
        a lot
        of heat for that.  The existence of this thread adds ammunition
        to that
        argument.


    I think you've got that a bit backwards.  Most hobbyists (or
    low-budget users) who use raid other than motherboard fakeraid will
    choose Linux md raid.  It may well be that most users of md raid
    /are/ hobby or low-budget users.  But your implication - that
    professionals don't use md raid - is completely wrong.

    It's more likely that it is hobby users that discuss these sorts of
    things - professionals just pay the money that the server
    manufacturer asks for its supported disks, since paying that is
    cheaper than spending time discussing things.  I know I mostly
    follow lists like this in my free time (as a hobbiest) rather than
    in work time (as a professional).


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