I have nothing limited. It's all i get from the bash after excecute the script. i am not aware of using a fast -boot kernel, but i saw that it comes whit kernel version 2.6.28. i think after the raid crashes i upgrade to the last kernel version, because of having the newer mdamd, ext and what ever tools to recover the raid. Am i right to use the --backup-file option, i must have a backup file ;)? i didnt have a file. as far as i understand your advise, to recreate the raid and the order of the disks. you choose them by the output off mdadm -E wich gave the actuall number of the disk and the variation at disk sdd and sdn is because of both shows the same number, right? i think i understand that. but why is disk "j" the last in the order. my output say that disk sdd is number 13, but as spare for sda....? here the stand after rebooting at the morning: fdisk -l|grep sd Disk /dev/sdb: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sda: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdc: 20.4 GB, 20409532416 bytes /dev/sdc1 * 1 2372 19053058+ 83 Linux /dev/sdc2 2373 2481 875542+ 5 Extended /dev/sdc5 2373 2481 875511 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sdd: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sde: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdf: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdg: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdh: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdi: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdj: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdk: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdl: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdm: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes Disk /dev/sdn: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes mdadm -E /dev/sda /dev/sda: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee4232 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdb /dev/sdb: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee4244 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee418e - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sde /dev/sde: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee4196 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdf /dev/sdf: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41aa - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdg /dev/sdg: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41bc - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdh /dev/sdh: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41ce - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdi /dev/sdi: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41e0 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdj /dev/sdj: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41f2 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdk /dev/sdk: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41ea - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdl /dev/sdl: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee41fe - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdm /dev/sdm: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 23:47:53 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee4210 - correct Events : 156864 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda mdadm -E /dev/sdn /dev/sdn: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : 975d6eb2:285eed11:021df236:c2d05073 Creation Time : Tue Oct 13 23:26:17 2009 Raid Level : raid5 Used Dev Size : 1465138496 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB) Array Size : 17581661952 (16767.18 GiB 18003.62 GB) Raid Devices : 13 Total Devices : 12 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Fri Jun 3 22:49:22 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 11 Working Devices : 12 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : 1dee3313 - correct Events : 156606 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 13 8 160 13 spare /dev/sdk 0 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi 3 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj 4 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl 5 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm 6 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb 7 7 0 0 7 faulty removed 8 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc 9 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd 10 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde 11 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf 12 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg 13 13 8 160 13 spare /dev/sdk ------ in short: /dev/sda: this 4 8 176 4 active sync /dev/sdl /dev/sdb: this 5 8 192 5 active sync /dev/sdm /dev/sdd: this 13 8 0 13 spare /dev/sda /dev/sde: this 6 8 16 6 active sync /dev/sdb /dev/sdf: this 8 8 32 8 active sync /dev/sdc /dev/sdg: this 9 8 48 9 active sync /dev/sdd /dev/sdh: this 10 8 64 10 active sync /dev/sde /dev/sdi: this 11 8 80 11 active sync /dev/sdf /dev/sdj: this 12 8 96 12 active sync /dev/sdg /dev/sdk: this 0 8 112 0 active sync /dev/sdh /dev/sdl: this 2 8 128 2 active sync /dev/sdi /dev/sdm: this 3 8 144 3 active sync /dev/sdj /dev/sdn: this 13 8 160 13 spare /dev/sdk ---- after that i would think the order confused because no disk is the right in the first line auf the position. but i would do this: mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l 5 -n 13 -e 0.90 -c 64 --assume-clean /dev/sd{k,l,m,a,b,e,?d?,f,g,h,i,j,n} or mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l 5 -n 13 -e 0.90 -c 64 --assume-clean /dev/sd{k,l,m,a,b,e,?n?,f,g,h,i,j,d} or what you think? how must i handle both spare disk sda and sdk? -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html