Hello, Le vendredi 18 mars 2011 23:22:51, NeilBrown écrivait : > On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:12:49 +0100 Xavier Brochard <xavier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Le vendredi 18 mars 2011 18:22:34 hansbkk@xxxxxxxxx, vous avez écrit : > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Xavier Brochard > > > <xavier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > wrote: > > > > disk order is mixed between each boot - even with live-cd. > > > > is that normal? > > > > > > If nothing is changing and the order is swapping really every boot, > > > then IMO that is odd. > > > > nothing has changed, except kernel minor version > > Yet you don't tell us what the kernel minor version changed from or to. Previously it was ubuntu 2.6.32-27-server or 2.6.32-28-server and now it is ubuntu 2.6.32-29.58-server 2.6.32.28+drm33.13 > That may not be important, but it might and you obviously don't know which. > It is always better to give too much information rather than not enough. Again sorry, my wednesday email was long and I thought it was too long! > > exactly, in my case mdadm --examine output is somewhat weird as it shows: > > /dev/sde1 > > this 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdd1 > > /dev/sdd1 > > this 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 > > /dev/sdc1 > > this 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sde1 > > and /dev/sdf1 as sdf1 > > You are hiding lots of details again... > > Are these all from different arrays? They all claim to be 'device 0' of > some array. They are all from same md RAID10 array > Infact, "8, 33" is *always* /dev/sdc1, so I think the above lines have > been edited by hand because I'm 100% certain mdadm didn't output them. You're right, I'm sorry. I have copied this line, just changing the /dev/sd? Here's full output of mdadm --examine /dev/sd[cdefg]1 As you can see, disks sdc, sdd and sde claims to be different, is it a problem? ====================================== /dev/sdc1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : b784237b:5a021f4d:4cf004e3:2cb521cf Creation Time : Sun Jan 2 16:41:45 2011 Raid Level : raid10 Used Dev Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB) Array Size : 976767872 (931.52 GiB 1000.21 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Mar 16 09:50:03 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 1 Failed Devices : 2 Spare Devices : 0 Checksum : ec151590 - correct Events : 154 Layout : near=2 Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 0 0 0 0 0 removed 1 1 0 0 1 faulty removed 2 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 3 3 0 0 3 faulty removed /dev/sdd1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : b784237b:5a021f4d:4cf004e3:2cb521cf Creation Time : Sun Jan 2 16:41:45 2011 Raid Level : raid10 Used Dev Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB) Array Size : 976767872 (931.52 GiB 1000.21 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Mar 16 07:43:45 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 4 Working Devices : 5 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : ec14f740 - correct Events : 102 Layout : near=2 Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 0 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 1 1 8 49 1 active sync /dev/sdd1 2 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 3 3 8 81 3 active sync /dev/sdf1 4 4 8 97 4 spare /dev/sdg1 /dev/sde1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : b784237b:5a021f4d:4cf004e3:2cb521cf Creation Time : Sun Jan 2 16:41:45 2011 Raid Level : raid10 Used Dev Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB) Array Size : 976767872 (931.52 GiB 1000.21 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Mar 16 07:43:45 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 4 Working Devices : 5 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : ec14f752 - correct Events : 102 Layout : near=2 Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 1 8 49 1 active sync /dev/sdd1 0 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 1 1 8 49 1 active sync /dev/sdd1 2 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 3 3 8 81 3 active sync /dev/sdf1 4 4 8 97 4 spare /dev/sdg1 /dev/sdf1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : b784237b:5a021f4d:4cf004e3:2cb521cf Creation Time : Sun Jan 2 16:41:45 2011 Raid Level : raid10 Used Dev Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB) Array Size : 976767872 (931.52 GiB 1000.21 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Mar 16 07:43:45 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 4 Working Devices : 5 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : ec14f776 - correct Events : 102 Layout : near=2 Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 3 8 81 3 active sync /dev/sdf1 0 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 1 1 8 49 1 active sync /dev/sdd1 2 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 3 3 8 81 3 active sync /dev/sdf1 4 4 8 97 4 spare /dev/sdg1 /dev/sdg1: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : b784237b:5a021f4d:4cf004e3:2cb521cf Creation Time : Sun Jan 2 16:41:45 2011 Raid Level : raid10 Used Dev Size : 488383936 (465.76 GiB 500.11 GB) Array Size : 976767872 (931.52 GiB 1000.21 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 5 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Mar 16 07:43:45 2011 State : clean Active Devices : 4 Working Devices : 5 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Checksum : ec14f782 - correct Events : 102 Layout : near=2 Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 4 8 97 4 spare /dev/sdg1 0 0 8 33 0 active sync /dev/sdc1 1 1 8 49 1 active sync /dev/sdd1 2 2 8 65 2 active sync /dev/sde1 3 3 8 81 3 active sync /dev/sdf1 4 4 8 97 4 spare /dev/sdg1 =========== > > I think I can believe mdadm? > > Yes, you can believe mdadm - but only if you understand what it is saying, > and there are times when that is not as easy as one might like.... Specially when a raid system is broken! One mind looks broken too and it's a bit hard to think clearly :-) Thanks for the help Xavier xavier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - 09 54 06 16 26 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html