Re: Debian kernel stanza after aptitude kernel upgrade

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Dear Tim,

Thank you for your reply.
You state that after an added disk I should run:
update-initramfs -k all -u

This I understand, since I managed to get the raid 1 working this way the first time. However debian apt-get updated the kernel image, and I assume that process ran update-initramfs because of that.
I however believe that is why I lost the ability to boot from my raid set.
Do I need to manually rebuild the initramfs after a kernel upgrade before I reboot? (and check if md and raid1 are inserter as modules in the initramfs kernel? )

#My menu.list for grub:

Err, if that's all of it, then I'd guess you're not using the debian mechanisms to manage it? I'd probably switch back to using the Debian management stuff, it handles adding new kernels etc. fairly well.

Sorry that was not my entire list, just the boot stanza's I use; I figured that was all that was needed.
I will give the qemu a try, thank you!
I will also look into grub2 as well,!

Regards,
Armand


----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Small" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "A. Krijgsman" <a.krijgsman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Debian kernel stanza after aptitude kernel upgrade


On 21/09/10 11:39, A. Krijgsman wrote:
Stupid me! I didn't check the menu.lst of my grub, and apperantly aptitude rebuilded the initrd for the new kernel. The sysadmin I got the server managed to het the md device back online and I can now access my server again trough ssh.

Once you've installed the extra disk, I think you need to stick the output of

mdadm --examine --scan

into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

and then run

update-initramfs -k all -u

This isn't particularly well documented, so feel free to update the documentation and submit a patch ;o). You shouldn't need to hard-code the loading of raid1 etc. in /etc/modules.



A good quick-and-dirty hack to check that a machine will reboot correctly is to use qemu or kvm. The below should be fine, but to be on the safeside, create a user which has readonly access to the raw hard drive devices, and run the following as that user:

qemu -snapshot -hda /dev/sda -hdb /dev/sdb -m 64 -net none

The "-snapshot" will make the VM use copy-on-write version of the real block devices. The real OS will continue to update the block devices "underneath" the qemu, so the VM will get confused easily, but it's good enough as a check check to the question "will it reboot?".



#My menu.list for grub:

Err, if that's all of it, then I'd guess you're not using the debian mechanisms to manage it? I'd probably switch back to using the Debian management stuff, it handles adding new kernels etc. fairly well.



Since Grub loads the initrd-image from one of the two disks, if one fails, it won't boot the md root device anyway right? Is it that whel /dev/sda fails, /dev/sdb becomes /dev/sda? (or must I state that hd1 becomes hd0 when hd0 has failed?)

This is a bit of a pain with grub1 - grub2 handles it a bit better. With all BIOSes I've seen, if the first disk dies, the second disk becomes BIOS disk 0x80 (i.e. (hd0) in grub). The workaround is to run grub-install twice, telling grub that hd0 is sdb the second time by manually editing /boot/grub/device.map Once grub has loaded the kernel and initrd into RAM, then the md code should stand a reasonable chance of working out which drive is OK.


Tim.

This because I would prefere a stanza that always boots up in degraded mode, rather then in a panic kernel mode ;-) I have seen stanza's containing both disksk within one stanza, don't know if this is old or still supported?

Thanks for your time to read and hopefully reply!

Regards,
Armand
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