On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Daniel Reurich <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 22:50 +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> Hi Guys. >> >> I'm considering implementing a rotating offsite backup solution using >> raid 1. This solution uses 1 or more internal drives and 2 external >> e-sata harddrives. The raid setup would be a whole disk partitionable >> raid1 volume. >> >> The idea is that by swapping the external drives, I can have a >> boot-able ready to run offsite backup of the machine, as well as >> redundancy on the machine itself. Backups of the important data would >> be replicated via an incremental daily backup process onto the raid >> volume itself. >> >> The part that concerns me is how to get a clean removal of the drive >> being swapped out, and how will the raid handle having a stale drive >> inserted/re-added. >> >> I have been considering a couple of ways to handle this: >> >> 1) Power the machine down to swap the drives. This has the advantage >> that the backup is always in a clean bootable state with filesystem >> consistency pretty much guaranteed. >> >> 2) Use mdadm to fail and remove the drives, and then re-add the newly >> attached stale drive. (Perhaps a udev rule could be made handle the >> re-add). The disadvantage is this will potentially leave the backup > with an inconsistent filesystem and possibly have some corrupted files > unless there is a way to programmatically queisce all write filesystem > write activity and sync the disk before the removal. > >> It will also mark the drive as failed and require mdadm --re-add to >> insert the spare drive. It's advantage is that the machine >> doesn't need to be turned off. >> >> 3) Hot pull the drive e-sata cable, then power down the drive. This is >> likely to leave the filesystems in really nasty state if there just >> happens to be a write going on at the time. > > Actually scrap 3 as on re-reading it goes against all sensibility. >> >> My preference is for option 2 as option 1 may not always be feasible due >> to the downtime, but I'm wondering about how best to handle the re-add, >> as I suspect that the metadata on the failed then removed drive, would >> make it more difficult to re-add the drive into the array. >> >> If option 1 was used (cold swap), how would md handle assembly with the >> stale but not failed member disk? Would it simply force a resync, or >> would it fail the disk and require manual intervention to re-add it. >> >> Any thoughts on my hair brained scheme would be appreciated. >> >> Daniel Reurich. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Why don't you just sync ; sync; sync; wait a few seconds and then mdadm --fail /dev/whatever the device you want to remove is; then actually remove it from the array? In the event you need to boot or read from the failed 'snapshot' of the array you can add --force to the mdadm --assemble to cause it to accept the failed member as a valid array member (just make sure there are no other members of that array present). It will then become the current master set for that fork of your storage versions. If you need to add that drive back to the original array be sure to --zero-superblock for that device first, otherwise the versions may confuse things. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
