Re: Map Block number from hdd to md

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Further to my problems described below I dreamt up something that could
solve my problem, till I got new disks installed.

I am actually alive with a raid5 with 2 malfunctioning devices -
something that is impossible...  And I think I could be revived.
And I think it is not an uncommon situation.

I have badblocks. But only about 60 blocks on one drive and 10 on the
other, out of 4 drives. It is an error rate of about 1 out of 20,000
or 99,995 % good data rate. If I could resync both the erroneous drives, and
avoid the badblocks in the process, I would be safe (for some time). 

So if resync could be told to avoid the badblocks, and the file system
in question also could be told to avoid the blocks then I could be in
the air. I was then thinking of a userland resync process - no need to
change the kernel, just install new mdadm and friends. Is that doable
and useful?

best regards
keld

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 06:02:52AM +0200, Keld Simonsen wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:20:14PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:24:30 +0100
> > Michael <michael@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > i've came into the situation that one of my 4 mdadm raid5 drives failed.
> > > not realy faild, but not detectet at system startup. so i started resync,
> > > and one of the remaining hdd's had a bad block and faild. so 2 drives
> > > offline and raid not functional anymore.
> 
> I just had a similar situation. A raid5 with 4 disks had block errors on
> one disk and was failed. I checked it and it seemed without errors, and
> I wanted to re-add it. But then the other (Samsung 1 TB) disk erred in
> the resync process due to this disk also having bad blocks.
> 
> I managed to get the raid5 running again forcing it to be run with only
> 3 disks (one with bad blocks), and checking the fs with xfs_repair I found out that I was
> lucky that the fs integrity (directories, inodes etc) was undmaged.
> So I could run the array. 
> 
> But I cannot resync it as resyncing almost immediately runs into a
> resync of the bad blocks on the Samsung disk. It would have been nice if
> there was some sort of bad blocks management with Linux MD, but I
> understand that this is in the works.
> 
> I also understand that ext3 badblock management would not have saved me
> here, true? 
> 
> MD  resyncing is in an underlying level and does not take care of ext3
> badblock handling, I think.
> 
> 
> 
> > > 1st question:
> > > i have read that it is possible with debugfs to locate which file belongs
> > > to the bad block on a ext file system. good thing, so i can check if i have
> > > *lost* an inportant or an unimportant file... or just free space.
> > > problen with this is, that i cant map the known bad block from, lets say,
> > > sda to my raid array md0.
> > > 
> > > is there any method to find that bad block in context of the raid block
> > > device? reading all files is not a good option on large raidsets.
> > > level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2
> > 
> > It isn't that hard.  The code is in drivers/md/raid5.c in the kernel.....
> > 
> > Rather than trying to describe in general, give me the block number, device,
> > and "mdadm --examine" of that device, and I'll tell you how I get the answer.
> 
> Furthermore I would have liked to find out which files were affected.
> Is there a way to do this with XFS? debugfs is for ext3.
> I was not able to find a program mapping a sector to an inode in XFS.
> And then there is the need to map the physical bad block number on the
> device to the actual block in the (damaged) raid5. How to do that?
> I think this is almost the same question as Michael's (with an XFS
> variation).
> 
> Best regards
> Keld
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