also sprach Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx> [2010.02.07.1007 +1300]: > This comment makes me see Neil's argument in a different light, > (hopefully I am not mischaracterizing it), but essentially we are > waiting for the standards to catch up with this new class of > program. FUSE, CUSE, and mdmon belong to a class of programs that > move traditionally exclusive kernel space functionality to > userspace. Debian's /lib/init/rw looks to be a response to this > grey area of the standards (not that I have any familiarity with > the LSB). I have not read the full thread for lack of time, but I would like to chime in that I favour user-space over kernel-space any day: it makes for stabler systems, better interfaces, and easier upgrades — even though it's definitely more work for the distro maintainers. So mdmon seems like a good idea, even though some details might need to be worked out to everyone's satisfaction yet. I agree with Dan that this trend is new and that slow-moving standards like the FHS have yet to catch up. But they cannot catch up if distros don't explore the field. Debian's latest move in this exploration was indeed /lib/init/rw, but it's questionable, not only because it's a tmpfs, which makes it unusable for e.g. md bitmaps — unless we invented a place that moved to persistent storage as early as possible, in a way that would make it accessible early during the next boot. But now I am diverting the topic… -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@xxx> Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck http://vcs-pkg.org `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems "there are two major products that come out of berkeley: lsd and unix. we don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- jeremy s. anderson
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