On Nov 10, 7:22am, "Neil F Brown" wrote: } Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] mdadm-3.1 has been withdrawn Good morning to everyone, hope the week is progressing well. > On Tue, November 10, 2009 1:39 am, Doug Ledford wrote: > > On 11/06/2009 01:45 AM, Neil Brown wrote: > >> > >> Greetings. > >> > >> About a week ago I released mdadm-3.1 > >> I have now 'withdrawn' it meaning that it doesn't appear on the > >> kernel.org mirrors any more, and I ask people not to use it. > > > > Although the cause for this sucks, I was actually going to suggest that > > since 3.1 is a version bump, that we take the opportunity to change a > > few defaults. Like switching to version 1 superblocks instead of > > version 0 by default. And changing the default chunk size to 512k > > instead of 64k. The time has simply come for the 0->1 superblock > > change, and I have a good deal of data showing that for SATA disks at > > least, the 512k chunk size is the typical sweet spot. > I had been toying with that idea myself - certainly of changing the > defaults soon. I'm tempted to make the default metadata "1.1" > though possibly not for RAID1. For RAID0,4,5,6,10 there is no value > in having the metadata at the end of the device. For RAID1 there is > as it makes booting off any member easier. Thoughts? It may be heresy but I would suggest that if the defaults change we should also implement support for auto-starting version 1.x devices, or some appropriate subset of them. I understand and appreciate the concerns of the userspace start community. However, we do a lot of storage on very dedicated systems and I have spent far more time unsnarling systems with blown initrd/initramfs setups and other boot issues than I have recovering from starting RAID volumes on the wrong box. Thats why I don't let udev anywhere near production machines and I am still living on 0.9 metadata in spite of its limitations. UNIX has always been about allowing people to shoot themselves in the foot if they so desire. I think an acceptable compromise would be to move toward a default of disabled auto-detection with the option to turn on detection of all meta-data types if people choose to do that. > NeilBrown Best wishes for a pleasant weekend to everyone. }-- End of excerpt from "Neil F Brown" As always, Dr. G.W. Wettstein, Ph.D. Enjellic Systems Development, LLC. 4206 N. 19th Ave. Specializing in information infra-structure Fargo, ND 58102 development. PH: 701-281-1686 FAX: 701-281-3949 EMAIL: greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Join in the new game that's sweeping the country. It's called `Bureaucracy`. Everybody stands in a circle. The first person to do anything loses." -- Steve RTFM Przepiora -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html