I would really like to have this functionality. Honestly, its pretty much perfect for the "home server" application (which I have several of), where: - writes are far less common than reads, - The system goes hours without any reads and days without any writes. - single drive read speed is plenty for the applications that are sitting on the other side - a lot of the data is too voluminous to backup (media that can just be re-ripped or downloaded). - you want some redundancy beyond a single drive copy, but don't want to spend a lot of drives on it. The model of "if you lose 1 disk, you lose nothing, if you lose 2 disks you lose a portion" is better than the raid5 model of losing everything with a double-disk failure. - a common access pattern is to do a long sequential read at a slow rate that takes hours to go through a few gigs (playing media). -----Original Message----- From: linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Germano Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:16 PM To: linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Proposal: non-striping RAID4 I would like to bring this back to the attention of the group (from November 2007) since the conversation died off and it looks like a few key features important to me were left out of the discussion... *grin* The original post was regarding "unRAID" developed by http://lime-technology.com/ I had an idea in my head, and "unRAID" has features almost identical to what I was thinking about with the exception of a couple deal breaking design decisions. These are due to the proprietary front end, not the modified driver. Bad decision #1) Implementation is for a NAS Appliance. Files are only accessible through a Samba share. (Though this is great for the hoards of people that use it as network storage for their windows media center pcs.) Bad decision #2) Imposed ReiserFS. Oh yeah, and it's not free in either sense of the word. The most relevant uses I can think of for this type of array are archive storage and low use media servers. Keeping that in mind... Good Thing #1) "JBOD with parity." Each usable disk is seen separately and has its own filesystem. This allows mixed sized disks and replacing older smaller drives with newer larger ones one at a time while utilizing the extra capacity right away (after expanding the filesystem.) In the event that two or more disks are lost, surviving non-parity disks still have 100% of their data. (Adding a new disk larger than the parity disk is possible, but takes multiple steps of converting it to the new parity disk and then adding the old parity disk back to the array as a regular disk... acceptable to me) Good Thing #2) You can spin down idle disks. Since there is no data striping and file systems don't [have to] span drives, reading a file only requires 1 disk to be spinning. Writing only requires 1 disk + parity disk. This is an important feature to the "GREEN" community. On my mythtv server, I only record a few shows each week. I would have disks in this setup possibly not accessed for weeks or even months at a time. They don't need to be spinning, and performance is of no importance to me as long as it can keep up with writing HD streams. Hopefully this brings a new perspective to the idea. Thanks, Tony Germano _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _Refresh_family_safety_052008-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html