> of my drives at the moment are below 10 start-stop cycles, even though > the array is only used very lightly for a few hours every day. but my point was that "very lightly" doesn't tell you how many start/stop cycles. if the spindown timeout is less than ~10 minutes, you _could_ hit 50K cycles over 3 years, even assuming only 8 hrs/day. I'd feel uncomfortable coming within a factor of 2 of the start/stop rating... > > I don't believe ext3 will generate journal forces unless you do something > > that generates data or journal IO. for instance, atime updates are often > > overlooked here. I generally turn atime stuff off anyway. > > > But accessing the drive will spin it up anyway, so why would it be > prudent to turn atime off (apart from the fact that it is often not > needed anyway)? but reading a cached file will update its atime. with fileservers commonly in the multi-GB range, many files are cached... regards, mark hahn. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html