RE: First RAID Setup

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--- "Callahan, Tom" <CallahanT@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I understand the reason for the RAID1 devices..... I
> was asking why you have
> 3 devices in the RAID1 setup? RAID1 is a mirrored
> configuration, requiring
> only 2 disks for operation.

Right. Like I indicated, I reviewed this list for
suggested configurations and this is what I came up
with as a result.

I guess you do only need two disks, since you'll be
able to recover anyway, but it seemed a simpler config
with identical disk partitions and only a small amount
of space wasted on one disk.

> It is always wise to build in a spare however, that
> being said about all
> raid levels. In your configuration, if a disk fails
> in your RAID5, your
> array will go down. RAID5 is usually 3+ disks, with
> a mirror. So you should
> have 3 disks at minimum, and then a 4th as a spare.

But if I don't mind the machine coming down, I don't
think I need a spare? I just want to be able to rip
out the bad drive, slap in a new one, rebuild, and be
back in business with all my data. I don't need HA.

(snip)
> Another gotcha, it's usually better to use entire
> disks, if you can afford
> to, in an MD array. This alleviates growing pains of
> having to manually
> repartition if you want to grow an exisiting
> filesystem. This may not make
> much sense now, but once you have to do it, you'll
> smack your forehead in
> grief.

Yes, I can see that, you instead grow by slapping in
extra disks and then resizing the array. Hmm. I'll
have to think about that.

> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Callahan


Thanks for the advice, lots to mull over. I've got
time, I'm still ddrescue'ing my crashed drive... :)

Andargor



> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andargor The Wise [mailto:andargor@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:45 PM
> To: Callahan, Tom; linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: First RAID Setup
> 
> 
> The RAID1 partitions are to make sure:
> 
> 1) The machine is able to boot even if a disk is
> lost
> (/boot).
> 2) The machine isn't brought down if a disk is lost
> (swap)
> 
> I thought about a spare drive, but I don't need high
> availability. I'm satisfied with being able to
> recover
> my data.
> 
> Andargor
> 
> 
> --- "Callahan, Tom" <CallahanT@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > You "should" have a designated spare for RAID-5.
> > 
> > Not sure why you have 3 disks for each RAID1,
> RAID1
> > is mirror, and unless
> > the third drive is a spare, it is not needed.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Callahan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> > Of Andargor The Wise
> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:10 PM
> > To: linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: First RAID Setup
> > 
> > 
> > I admit it. I'm a RAID virgin.
> > 
> > However, after a disastrous failure of the sole
> > drive
> > I wasn't backing up, I decided to go RAID-5 under
> > Slack 10.2 (first time ever with RAID-5).
> > 
> > The config:
> > 
> > Asus P5GL-MX (ICH6) mobo w/1 GB RAM, 4 x SATA
> ports
> > P4 3.0G/1M
> > 3 x WD2000JS 200.0 GB SATA drives
> > 
> > First, a question: the BIOS on this machine seems
> to
> > list the SATA ports as "third/fourth IDE
> > master/slave". Further, the documentation seems to
> > say
> > that SATA 1/2 are "master" and SATA 3/4 are
> "slave"
> > (black and red connectors, respectively).
> > 
> > My understanding is that SATA drives are each on
> > separate buses. Is this because the BIOS offers a
> > P-ATA emulation mode for SATA and it makes it
> > "easier"
> > to understand for novices to show them that way?
> > 
> > I ask because people have said that it is not a
> good
> > idea to have both IDE masters and slaves on the
> same
> > bus as part of a RAID-5 array. I know SATA is
> > different, but will using three of the SATA ports
> on
> > this mobo be OK?
> > 
> > Second, after reading the excellent advice in this
> > list, I decided that booting from RAID-5 might not
> > be
> > a good idea. So this is what I've been thinking:
> > 
> > Each disk partitioned alike:
> > 	1	30MB 
> > 	2	8GB (to allow for memory upgrades later)
> > 	5	rest_of_disk
> > 
> > mds:
> > 	md0	raid1 sda1 sdb1 sdc1
> > 	md1	raid1 sda2 sdb2 sdc2
> > 	md2	raid5 sda5 sdb5 sdc5
> > 
> > 	md0	/boot
> > 	md1	swap
> > 	md2	/
> > 
> > Does this look OK? What should the stripe and
> chunk
> > sizes be, considering I'll be going with reiserfs?
> > Typical usage: development machine, some DB apps
> > with
> > medium load, read-only mostly, not many writes.
> Very
> > few large files (such as multimedia).
> > 
> > Or should I set up separate RAID-5's for /usr and
> > /var
> > as well?
> > 
> > Lastly, can I install directly to this
> > configuration,
> > or should I install on a separate disk and move
> > things
> > into the array?
> > 
> > Andargor
> > 
> > 
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