You forgot one! Peter said: "There might be a small temporal displacement." This worries me! RED ALERT! Beam me up! Wait, I will take the shuttle craft please. "You cannot change the laws of physics!" - Scotty But, really, I do understand what Peter is saying. It just seemed too funny to me. And since I have disk read errors more than temporal displacement, I need RAID more than a temporal dampening field. Maybe a temporal phase converter? And, a single non-RAID disk can suffer from temporal displacement. I love Star Trek, so I love temporal displacements! :) Guy -----Original Message----- From: David Greaves [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:27 PM To: Guy Cc: linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Guy wrote: >RAID does not cause bad data! > > Guy - how can you speak such heresy!! ;) Haven't you seen the special 'make_undetectable_error(float p)' function? >Bad data can get on any disk, even if it is part of a RAID system. >The bad data does not come from the hard disk, CRCs prevent that. > >The problem is: Where does the bad data come from? >Bad memory? No, everyone use ECC memory, right? > > I like to blame cosmic rays - I just like the image ;) Of course voltage fluctuations, e/m interference, thermal variations, mechanical interfaces, dust capacitance/resistance, insects shorts... anywhere inside the tin box between the media and the corners of the motherboard. It's amazing that some machines even boot. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html