Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard)

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On Tuesday January 4, andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 01:22:56PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> > On Monday January 3, ewan.grantham@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > I've setup a RAID-5 array using two internal 250 Gig HDs and two
> > > external 250 Gig HDs through a USB-2 interface. Each of the externals
> > > is on it's own card, and the internals are on seperate IDE channels.
> > > 
> > > I "thought" I was doing a good thing by doing all of this and then
> > > setting them up using an ext3 filesystem.
> > 
> > Sounds like a perfectly fine setup (providing always that external
> > cables are safe from stray feet etc).
> > 
> > No need to change anything.
> 
> Except that Peter says that the ext3 journals should be on separate
> non-mirrored devices and the reason this is not mentioned in any
> documentation (md / ext3) is that everyone sees it as obvious.
> Whether it is true or not it's clear to me that it's not obvious to
> everyone.

If Peter says that, then Peter is WRONG.

ext3 journals are much safer on mirrored devices than on non-mirrored
devices just the same as any other data is safer on mirrored than on
non-mirrored. 
In the case in question, it is raid5, not mirrored, but still raid5 is
safer than raid0 or single devices (possibly not quite as safe was raid1).

NeilBrown
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