You said: "anything that's shipped by courier is suspect." Humm, the way the drives are packed you would have a hard time exceeding 300Gs. Even UPS can't do that I bet. But I must admit, I have no idea what force a drive would "feel" in a 4 foot drop. Remember, the drive is packed very well! Also, they only refer to 2 ms. So, no idea if that is equal to 150 Gs for 4ms. Or 75 Gs for 8ms. >From a 300G Maxtor drive. Reliability - Shock Tolerance: 60Gs @ 2 ms half-sine pulse (Operating), 300Gs @ 2 ms half-sine pulse (Non-operating) - Data Error Rate: < 1 /10E15 bits read (Non-recoverable) - MTBF: 1000000 Hours Guy -----Original Message----- From: linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-raid-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Greaves Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 2:41 PM To: Mark Hahn Cc: linux-raid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID Mark Hahn wrote: >>Never buy Maxtor drives again! >> >> > >you imply that Maxtor drives are somehow inherently flawed. >can you explain why you think millions of people/companies >are naive idiots for continuing to buy Maxtor disks? > >this sort of thing is just not plausible: Maxtor competes >with the other top-tier disk vendors with similar products >and prices and reliability. yes, if you buy a 1-year disk, >you can expect it to have been less carefully tested, possibly >be of lower-end design and reliability, and to have been handle >more poorly by the supply chain. thankfully, you don't have >to buy 1-year disks any more. > >read the specs. make sure your supply chain knows how to >handle disks. make sure your disks are mounted correctly, >both mechanically and with enough airflow. use raid and >some form of archiving/backups. don't get hung up on which >of the 4-5 top-tier vendors makes your disk. > > > Yeah, you're right. Of course - the fact that 2 of *my* 6 Maxtor 250Gb SATA drives (3 year warranty) date stamped at various times in 2004 have failed is coincidence and should, of course, be expected with a MTBF of millions of hours. Oh, please note I'm not Robin - that must be a coincidence too :) Personally I'm waiting for the revelation that they are recycled IBM Deskstar 70's ;) I take your point about supply chain though - anything that's shipped by courier is suspect. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html