On 5 Aug 2004, Jens Benecke wrote: > Robin Bowes wrote: > >> On Wed, August 4, 2004 9:42, Jens Benecke said: [...] > see subject (Debian). I've looked at SuSE though, it seems with their setup > RAID and ReiserFS is much easier to handle. The upcoming release of Debian will feature MD and LVM device creation at install time, but is not yet stable; the current stable release does not support either of them. I usually do a minimal install on one "missing" disk in a RAID set, then copy that to the RAID, reboot and add back the missing disk. Painful, but possible. [...] > Hm... I thought LVM did mirroring and striping as well? I didn't think you > can or should use them together. Wouldn't that degrade performance as > well? It can, if you want it to, but it doesn't have to. I usually just use MD devices created over partitions, because that is supported by in-kernel detection, and because it avoids the LVM ... instability of the last few years. I am told that LVM is much more stable these days, though. :) >>> Does MD or LVM2 do hot sync, i.e. if one drive fails will I be able to >>> stick in a replacement, and stop worrying? Or do I need to repartition >>> the new disk exactly as the old one, before being able to sync? >> >> I'm not sure about this. My understanding is that you will need to >> shutdown the system to replace the bad disk and partition the new disk >> manually before md will resync, but this could be wrong. > > What I mean is, will md resync automatically or would I have to initiate > this manually? MD will resync if there is a hot-spare available, but will not automatically suck a replacement disk into place. You need to partition (if you use them), then manually add the new disk to the RAID set. With mirroring, of course, I can't see the point in using a hot-spare over having additional devices in the mirror set, except for PCI and disk bus bandwidth. For most servers they cost less than the risk that using hot-spare disks implies. :) [...] >>> The goal is to have as "stress free" a system as possible - i.e. with as >>> little manual configuration, and in event of emergencies, as little work >>> to do, as possible. >> >> If you want stress free, buy a Netapps storage appliance ;o) > > If they do all the rest that I need (smtp, web, file server, ftp server, > mysql, spamassassin, etc etc etc) fine. If not, I'd need to set up another > box anyway, so I wouldn't see the advantage. If you can afford them then they are one of the most stress free ways to get a lot of disk space. They are not a substitute for standard storage, though, and they do cost a bit... Daniel -- To lie about a far country is easy. -- Amharic proverb - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html