Hi, we've stumbled on a long-standing issue with PA, namely, PA fails to start after relogin quickly. The details and discussions are found in https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052437 In short, the problem is that the session management removes $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/users/*) after logout while PA remains running. This leaves also the ESD socket in /tmp/esd-$uid, too. When re-login, a new PA process is kicked off because the old socket in /run/user/* is gone. Then it hits with the existing /tmp/esd-$uid, considering as a fatal error, hence it aborts. Now the primary question is what's the right approach to fix this. I guess the best would be to kill PA properly at each X session logout instead of self-killing after idle. Then where's the best place to put that? And, why this seems appearing only on KDE or else but not in GNOME is still another question. Maybe there is any missing piece in other DEs? Any comments/hints appreciated. thanks, Takashi