On 08.02.2015 19:33, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 08.02.2015 22:43, Georg Chini wrote: >> On 08.02.2015 16:52, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >>> >>> OK, then I think there was some misunderstanding on my side. Could you >>> please post some log lines with two USB devices to completely clear >>> this up? I want logs without the stop criterion (which is properly >>> called a "deadband"), and with both 0.75% and the 2â?° restraints >>> commented out, and adjust_time of 2 seconds. Just for debugging my >>> assumptions :) >>> >> Here is the log from my webcam to my USB sound card, command line was: >> >> pacmd load-module module-loopback rate=44100 latency_msec=150 >> adjust_time=2 >> >> pure p-regulator without restrictions and >> new_rate = base_rate * (1 + latency_difference / u->adjust_time) >> >> Feb 8 18:34:21 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 106,47 ms + 76,51 ms + 1,84 ms = 184,61 ms, >> latency difference: 31,31 ms, rate difference: 0 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:21 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44790 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:23 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 106,44 ms + 47,33 ms + 0,21 ms = 153,67 ms, >> latency difference: 1,19 ms, rate difference: 690 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:23 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44179 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:25 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 107,93 ms + 40,54 ms + 0,88 ms = 148,98 ms, >> latency difference: -3,94 ms, rate difference: 79 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:25 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44019 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:27 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 104,25 ms + 47,30 ms + 0,77 ms = 152,18 ms, >> latency difference: -0,01 ms, rate difference: -81 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:27 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44094 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:29 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 106,71 ms + 46,40 ms + 0,06 ms = 152,93 ms, >> latency difference: 0,81 ms, rate difference: -6 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:29 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44117 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:31 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 108,62 ms + 43,59 ms + 0,38 ms = 152,27 ms, >> latency difference: -0,15 ms, rate difference: 17 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:31 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44098 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:33 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 105,39 ms + 45,60 ms + 0,87 ms = 151,79 ms, >> latency difference: -0,46 ms, rate difference: -2 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:33 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44090 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:35 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 107,00 ms + 45,02 ms + 0,35 ms = 152,19 ms, >> latency difference: -0,09 ms, rate difference: -10 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:35 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44097 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:37 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 103,47 ms + 48,14 ms + 0,71 ms = 152,03 ms, >> latency difference: 0,11 ms, rate difference: -3 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:37 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44102 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:39 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 104,88 ms + 46,98 ms + 0,00 ms = 151,48 ms, >> latency difference: -0,24 ms, rate difference: 2 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:39 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44095 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:41 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 108,49 ms + 44,15 ms + 0,05 ms = 152,53 ms, >> latency difference: 0,65 ms, rate difference: -5 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:41 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44114 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:43 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 105,14 ms + 46,45 ms + 0,23 ms = 151,59 ms, >> latency difference: -0,17 ms, rate difference: 14 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:43 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44097 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:45 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 107,01 ms + 44,54 ms + 0,67 ms = 151,93 ms, >> latency difference: 0,10 ms, rate difference: -3 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:45 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44102 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:47 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 104,67 ms + 46,39 ms + 0,51 ms = 151,49 ms, >> latency difference: -0,23 ms, rate difference: 2 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:47 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44095 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:49 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 106,39 ms + 44,59 ms + 0,76 ms = 151,56 ms, >> latency difference: -0,18 ms, rate difference: -5 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:49 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44096 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:51 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 107,63 ms + 43,72 ms + 0,18 ms = 151,24 ms, >> latency difference: -0,57 ms, rate difference: -4 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:51 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44087 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:53 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 105,66 ms + 46,25 ms + 0,92 ms = 152,47 ms, >> latency difference: 0,68 ms, rate difference: -13 Hz >> Feb 8 18:34:53 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> [alsa_output.usb-0d8c_USB_Sound_Device-00-Device.analog-stereo] Updated >> sampling rate to 44114 Hz. >> Feb 8 18:34:55 mini pulseaudio[25589]: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: >> Loopback overall latency is 108,00 ms + 43,55 ms + 0,56 ms = 151,94 ms, >> latency difference: 0,05 ms, rate difference: 14 Hz >> >> >> It continues to oscillate slightly around the 44100 Hz base rate. >> >> Is this the log you wanted? > > Yes, thanks. I was indeed confused by your description of the problem. > The use of a deadband in this situation is 100% valid (it is about > excessive sensitivity to small latency fluctuations), but > > new_rate = base_rate * (1 + 0.1 * latency_difference / u->adjust_time) > > may also work :) > Yes, it would, but it takes much longer to adjust, especially at a long adjust_time and when your latency is far out. I wanted it to converge as quickly as possible without breaking the restrictions.
