'Twas brillig, and Joerg Anders at 05/01/10 10:00 did gyre and gimble: > Both is terrible! Therefore: Could please anybody describe a how > to install Ubuntu 9.10 /Fedora 11 bypassing the installation of PulseAudio! Nope, but in Mandriva you simply run draksound (or the main configuration app and pick the appropriate category) and untick the "Use PulseAudio" box. <ironic stupid new word of the previous year>Simples.</ironic stupid new word of the previous year> Of course the real problem is the fact that the apps you mention are not running as the user accessing them and who currently has the right to the audio h/w as defined by console-kit (a subsystem below PA, but which PA integrates nicely with) meaning that there is a security hole in that this other user can evesdrop on your sound session and potentially steal sensitive information. These apps should be fixed to not be system services but instead run as the user when appropriate. Col PS, FWIW, if you are looking for support from the PA community, you should really refrain from using the kind of subject you did as this is very unlikely to garner much support from the community members and the fact that you blame PA for exposing the poor security model of these other apps also does not seem to be an argument that will stand up to the test of time.... -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]