On Mon, 04.01.10 14:59, Bill Cox (waywardgeek at gmail.com) wrote: > > Hi, Lennart. I beg you to not work towards eliminating the consoles. > Speakup is not only popular, but easily installed as a module in > Ubuntu, with 'm-a a-i speakup-souce'. It's not me who is setting the agenda here, its mostly the X/video folks whose plans that are. Note that droppping the console does not necessarily mean there would be no replacement for rescue/admin purposes, that does not depend on the full X stack. That would probably live in userspace though. But then again, I probably should not comment too much about the X/video plans, given that I dont really work on that. > Users need the consoles, and thus speakup, after logging in through > gdm for several reasons. Most blind users feel speakup is a better > console driver than Orca driving gnome-terminal, and they spend as > little time in Gnome as possible. I hear it integrates well with > Braille displays. Right. So why not fix orca and make everything work fine in Gnome? I mean, lets fix things properly, not carry on with kludges. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4