On Monday 19 April 2010, Colin Guthrie wrote: >'Twas brillig, and Gene Heskett at 19/04/10 16:24 did gyre and gimble: >> On Monday 19 April 2010, Colin Guthrie wrote: >>> 'Twas brillig, and Gene Heskett at 19/04/10 05:10 did gyre and gimble: >>>> And >>>> [root at coyote linux-2.6.34-rc3]# getfacl /dev/snd/controlC0 >>>> getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names >>>> # file: dev/snd/controlC0 >>>> # owner: root >>>> # group: audio >>>> user::rw- >>>> user:gene:rw- >>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>>> group::rw- >>>> mask::rw- >>>> other::--- >>>> >>>> ??? >>>> >>>> Teach please, thanks. >>>> >>> :) >>> >>> Todays Lesson: >>> >>> You can see your user sneaking in there. This means that your user does >>> have permission to read and write this node. >>> >>> So now that this is set, you should try running PA again and see if you >>> get the "accessible: no" bit in the log. >>> >>> Col >> >> Not sure if I am, and since the only way to run it again is to kill and >> restart it with the '-vvv &' options , I'll wait for the next reboot, >> which is coming at some point today, because if I restart it without a >> working knotify4, the sound results are all chopped up. knotify4 goes >> away shortly after the boot because 10 minutes later its still hogging >> one core of my phenom at 100% so I kill it. But that is also true of the >> distro kernels. > >We used to have a 100% CPU issue with knotify a while back in Mdv, but I >thought we'd fixed it. It relates to how Phonon works with streams. At the moment, no phonon is running according to htop. Should it be? >All >the backends are broken in one way or the other :(. IIRC tho' knotify >does some strange things with it's sound output... It never bothered me >quite enough to get my hands dirty and look at the code however. I've >seen it hogging the alsa hw:0 device in the past tho'. Nasty. > >The problem with waiting until reboot is that the ACLs for the device >nodes may not be written correctly at boot time for whatever reason, and >it's this boot that causes the problems. Running PA manually after >checking the ACLs is a good way to verify everything is setup correctly. So I did restart it and: [gene at coyote build]$ getfacl /dev/snd/controlC0 getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names # file: dev/snd/controlC0 # owner: root # group: audio user::rw- user:gene:rw- group::rw- mask::rw- other::--- and now the sound is sputtering, at least for the chime of incoming email. >> I am finding enough wrong with mandriva that I'm considering bailing for >> the *buntu camp, or if I can survive till F13 is final, maybe that, the >> beta is working on my lappy including the 3d stuff. > >If you're a KDE man (which is sounds like you are) Yes. >then MAndriva and >OpenSuse generally get the best write ups for KDE related stuff. > >> MDV's dkms is busted > >Works fine here, perhaps it's specific dkms packages? > >> ccache's installer dates from 2005 so it doesn't work, > >Hmm, I have ccache running fine here too. Its miss-linked somehow. My script calls it, and it works without throwing any visible errors, but its <5% of the speed I had on 32 bit F10. >> makes a kernel build take 2 hours on a 4 core phenom > >Are you building an RPM via mandriva's packages because if so, you are >aware that it's building several separate kernels for various different >purposes. You can edit the SPEC to not generate all the sundray kernels >and only build the one you are interested in. This is a straight from kernel.org kernel. 2.6.33 tarball + patches. >> and a host of other quibbles, like an almost >> complete lack of expert assistance from its "expert" mailing list >> (english version), yadda yadda. > >Hmm, strange. I don't really subscribe to the expert list much... cooker >tends to be what interests me more. Does that have a mailiing list? >You should hang out in IRC. People tend to be pretty helpful generally. On freenode I assume, #name please. >> Expert support on this list is the one shining star in this otherwise >> dismal sky. Thank you very much. > >No worries. > >Col > Thanks Colin. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A healthy male adult bore consumes each year one and a half times his own weight in other people's patience. -- John Updike