'Twas brillig, and Neil Wilson at 27/09/09 11:42 did gyre and gimble: > 2009/9/27 Colin Guthrie <gmane at colin.guthr.ie>: >> What version of udev do you have? You should have at least 146 but if you >> are on 145 then you should apply this patch: >> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/udev/devel/0001-enumeration-move-ALSA-control-devices-to-the-end-of-.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup >> >> (it is included in udev 146) >> >> Hope that's the problem. > > Doesn't look like it. I'm on the edge with Ubuntu karmic, which is > pulseaudio 0.9.18 and udev 147 and yes it is the 'module-udev-detect' > that is doing the lookup. Well regardless of the cause, I think the symptom is still the same. There is a race somewhere relating to the device permissions. It could be udev or consolekit or kernel level inotify support to blame, but I don't think it's pulse specifically (tho' that could very easily be wrong - or it could be that this is where it needs to be worked around in any case). Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]