On Sat, 26.12.09 08:31, Halim Sahin (halim.sahin at freenet.de) wrote: > > > > Lennart > > > > > > > I believe in his particular use-case he's concerned about the > > > screenreader prior to the DE starting up (boot messages and the like?). > > > > We actually cover that inside of gdm, where you can get access to the > > boot messages. > > Ok what about consolescreenreaders like sbl brltty or speakup? > They need a working audiosystem to provide > usefull stuff before login or to read the login pprompt. The gdm login screen should be prefectly accessible. > With pulseaudio I need to login without feedback, start the speech server and > then restart the screenreader. Use gdm! > By design mac and windows are not comparable with linux > because they are not a multi user OS. That is simply not true. > For german users: > http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/stud/unix-ag-bhb/node27.html > > changing the unix behaviour is the main problem here. > Maybe you don't need this but others do. Unix is pretty much a broken system. It might be a useful base and more useful as a base than other systems, but uh, of course we need to deviate from a system that was designed 40 years ago. People who think that Unix is a flawless system and every depature from it would be bad are just incredibly naive. > It should be possible to use the audiosystem the (old way). You are always welcome to use a distribution from 3 years ago if you feel that progress is not for you... Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4