Could we stop the discussion here? It is useless. If you, Shamun, are upset about how VoIP is at the moment implemented for IPv4 including all the crude workarounds then stop talking here and do something about it - create some NEW things and make an RFC. I believe many people would be interested. But it might be not that easy... If not just keep complaining, but please do NOT here. PS: The discussion here is completely out of scope of PJSIP. --- Dennis Guse On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Shamun Toha Md <shamun at companysocia.com>wrote: > Dear Joshua, > > Thank you for your feedback. > > 1) Please note that Google Hangout, Skype, Flash (web chat sites), > TeamViewer, Logmein firewall/networking breaking method is the most user > friendly method and well accepted by the planet. > > Please just do not think ICE, STUN, TURN, TLS is end of history. Please > think about VPN so that a user can accept the setup friendly like we have > been shown by Google Hangout > > There are many scenarios where normal ICE, Turn, Stun does not work you > can check it in some Enterprises network (health care, government, i went > there and all those failed) > > FYI Google Hangout firewall breaking method is the best to be used as > example (there WebRTC does not work the same way like Google Hangout) > > > 2) For Video you can see Google Hangout and Skype has shown us that > minimum is also accepted as long as it works perfectly on one try. > 95% will accept when it simply works but 99% will never use it if > firewall/nat issues are always over and over introduced. > > Google , Skype already proved that there concepts are working so why > should we just get backward always. > > > Thank you, have a great evening. > > Best regards > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip at lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pjsip.org/pipermail/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org/attachments/20131204/2f942262/attachment-0001.html>
