Still, remember that with approach: a) you will always have to follow the rules described for "Certified Signing" because you always use APS (but without "direct codec") b) other than this you will also have to pay G729 royalties (not to be paid in case of direct usage of APS codec) c) you will have a huge performance slowdown because you will have X2 encoding/decoding operation on-device record) APS record from microphone, encode it in G711, PJSIP decode G711, then PJSIP encode it G729 play) PJSIP receive from network G729, decode it to PCM, encode it to G711, send it to APS, APS decode G711 So you will have for recording: 2 X encode operation 1 X decode operation So you will have for playing: 1 X encode operation 2 X decode operation Instead hooking APS directly inside PJMEDIA you will have only 1 operation for playing and 1 operation for recording. Fabio Rawshan Iajdani wrote: > Seems like I am very close to get the ITU-729 going. I will start looking > into them as soon as I finish this... > > -----Original Message----- > From: pjsip-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pjsip-bounces at lists.pjsip.org] > On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:40 PM > To: pjsip list > Subject: Re: g729 - symbian port - FABIO > > Hi Rawshan, > > using the APS does not require any specific kind of partnership. > > You just have to use MultimediaDD capability in your DevCert retrieved > from SymbianSigned.com website. > > Then, for application for signing of your application, you will have to > comply to Symbian Signed rules (UNI-01 from UNI-11) with additional > requirement for MultimediaDD usage (CAP-01 to CAP-04) . > > When using such kind of capability, while submitting the Symbian Signed > submission, you have to use "Certified Signing" instead of "Express > Signing" . > > Select a Testing House (that will verify that you comply with Symbian > Signed Testing Requirements), pay some money for their testing (Sogeti > costs 560 EUR for first submission and 280EUR for second submission) and > have your application signed and ready for the market. > > I know that's additional effort, but this does not mean that you have to > became in any way partner of Symbian or Nokia, you just have to develop > the application respecting the requirements dictated here by Symbian: > > https://developer.symbian.com/wiki/display/pub/Symbian+Signed+Test+Criteria > > Regards, > Fabio Pietrosanti > > Rawshan Iajdani wrote: > >> Fabio, >> >> I was trying to locate APS API for codecs. But seems like I have to become >> > a > >> partner to get access to that particular category of API. Any >> thoughts?????????????? :( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pjsip-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pjsip-bounces at lists.pjsip.org] >> On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) >> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:39 PM >> To: pjsip list >> Subject: Re: g729 - symbian port >> >> Well, >> >> First of all the Audio Subsystem must be different between S60 and UIQ >> devices. >> >> Second, also on S60 it will have to be different between S60 MR/FP1 >> (Audio Proxy Server) and S60 FP1/FP2 devices (Voip Audio Services API) . >> Fortunately we are lucky that APS on S60 MR/FP1 it's supported while on >> FP2 it's deprecated but it works. >> >> Third, if you implement it in Software (instead of using APS) you will >> have to pay royalties for each piece distributed. >> >> This guide me to say that the more convenient things to do today is to >> hook APS directly inside PJMEDIA in order to use *for free >> *royalty-based codec like G729 and AMR, along with Hardware Acceleration >> and Battery Saving. >> >> Fabio >> >> Rawshan Iajdani wrote: >> >> >>> Why not we should try implementing ITU - g729 instead of APS. I like to >>> think outside the box as I like my application should port to at least on >>> UIQ. Working on that and will keep you guys posted. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pjsip-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > [mailto:pjsip-bounces at lists.pjsip.org] > >>> On Behalf Of Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) >>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:08 PM >>> To: Karthik Babu >>> Cc: pjsip list >>> Subject: Re: g729 - symbian port >>> >>> Nanang, >>> >>> can we write a small web page with the description of how the APS could >>> be integrated inside the PJMEDIA Stack? >>> >>> Mr. Karthik Babu of Cytrion proposed himself for the development of such >>> feature. >>> >>> Imho it should be driven by your design consideration, so it would be >>> nice to have your support about it. >>> >>> This implementation can provide to all pjsip users all the hardware >>> codecs support by S60 platform, including royalty based one like G729 >>> and AMR for *free* . >>> >>> Fabio >>> >>> Karthik Babu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Fabio , >>>> >>>> Can you please help me to get started with directions to implement g729 >>>> >>>> >> in >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> APS >>> >>> >>> >>>> for S60 devices . ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >>> >>> pjsip mailing list >>> pjsip at lists.pjsip.org >>> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >>> >>> pjsip mailing list >>> pjsip at lists.pjsip.org >>> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >> >> pjsip mailing list >> pjsip at lists.pjsip.org >> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org >> >> pjsip mailing list >> pjsip at lists.pjsip.org >> http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip at lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Visit our blog: http://blog.pjsip.org > > pjsip mailing list > pjsip at lists.pjsip.org > http://lists.pjsip.org/mailman/listinfo/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org >
