Depending on your MySQL version you could use a subquery by combining the two queries you mentioned, for a fairly straight-forward query. http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/4.1/subqueries.html http://mysqld.active-venture.com/Subqueries.html You could read about optimizing subqueries for optimum queries. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Murphy [mailto:php@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:49 PM To: php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Order By [blank] I have this column in mysql: A F D [ empty ] A C If I do an order by on that column, this is what I get: [ empty ] A A C D F What I would like is this: A A C D F [ empty ] Is there any way to achieve this in a single MySQL query? Using DESC in this case doesn't work, because while it puts the empty row in the last place, it does the rest as well. I could also do 2 queries where it calls it once in order WHERE !='', and then do another query to get the empty ones, but that seems a bit cumbersome. -- Kevin Murphy Webmaster: Information and Marketing Services Western Nevada Community College www.wncc.edu 775-445-3326 -- Kevin Murphy Webmaster: Information and Marketing Services Western Nevada Community College www.wncc.edu 775-445-3326 -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php