http://www.weberdev.com/get_example-4005.html that is the url to the PHP 5 object i created, it was created to show the use of the singleton pattern. This means you can only use this class to have one pager per page. i can edit the code if you do not know how to make it so you can have more than one per page. the php 4 version i will need to zip up locally here and will post it @ http://codebowl.dontexist.org/pager_php4.zip -- Joseph Crawford Jr. Codebowl Solutions codebowl@xxxxxxxxx -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php