I think (hope) that Rene was just trying to emphasize that while this is a php mailing list - it is focused on databases. An array full of 0's and 1's - while certainly data - hardly constitutes that. I suggest a 'for' loop using 'count()' of the array, or perhaps 'array_walk()'. Store the keys in some temp variables/etc. That said. http://www.php.net/docs.php - they have a handy search there. In addition, you can download the documentation - and if you're using windows, I recommend getting the chm version available here http://www.php.net/download-docs.php Keep on plugging, you'll pick it up! - Martin Norland, Database / Web Developer, International Outreach x3257 The opinion(s) contained within this email do not necessarily represent those of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. -----Original Message----- From: peppe [mailto:peppe1001@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:17 AM To: php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: how to find I really don't understand why people like you respond on questions do you want to make yourself interesting . I'm new to php and I'm trying to learn something that's why I mail in newsgroup but please please do not insult and do not respond any more if you think people are asking stupid questions "-{ Rene Brehmer }-" <metalbunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6.1.2.0.0.20041111124528.019e2e20@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 1. learn the basics of arrays > 2. RTFM > > At 12:27 11-11-2004, peppe wrote: > >Hi , > >I have numbers in my array > >0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 > >or > > 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 > >or > > 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > >how can I find the first 1 and the last is there a function for it -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php