Hello Justin, Monday, February 23, 2004, 5:30:16 PM, you wrote: JP> The real hairy part is dealing with joins as the syntax is very JP> different across the DBs. This can be solved by simply not doing them or I wish :) JP> using a syntax that most use. Or you can try to use DB_DataObject, but JP> I'm not sure it works for all DBs yet. Yeah, I thought as much. I think if I was creating an application to be distributed open-source on the Internet it'd make life easier for other developers if it used something like the PEAR-DB class, but when you're building your own/companies site and know the environment it lessens the value somewhat. -- Best regards, Richard Davey http://www.phpcommunity.org/wiki/296.html -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php