Thank you for your comments Ignatius. (just to note) : I do not agree that all projects SHOULD require CLEAR sepeartion of code and appearance. Further on this issue: Consider that there are lots of dynamic stuff like "news", and there are thousands of users and all data is stored in a database. Currently data is stored as a simple text. And I want to provide users (or their graphic editors) to display these "news" on their page in the way they like. So, to achieve this task I need a nice seperation of code and design. We may not achieve a 100% seperate work, but at least a graphical designer (who doesn't know any PHP) has to be able to develop a new design for his customers (our user) with ease. I also wonder if XSLT can accept any php code? Any suggestions? M.Mamedov. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignatius Reilly" <ignatius.reilly@xxxxxxx> To: "Muhammed Mamedov" <mm@xxxxxxxxxx>; "phpdb" <php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: Re: multi-language site > Preliminary note: > ALL projects should require a CLEAR seperation of code and appearance. > > Now: > To do what you describe, if you present your data as a HTML table, I would > suggest retrieving data from the DB as an arra, and using the PEAR > HTML_Table class to display them. Very easy to learn and extremely powerful. > In addition you can use XSLT if the news are stored as XML strings in the > DB. > > HTH > Ignatius > _________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Muhammed Mamedov" <mmamedov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Ignatius Reilly" <ignatius.reilly@xxxxxxx>; "phpdb" > <php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 13:57 > Subject: Re: multi-language site > > > > Hello Ignatius, > > > > I am working on a project which requires a CLEAR seperation of code and > > appearance. > > Think of this: There is a page which lists news from DB in a specific > manner > > (latest 10 added, and next,prev links on the bottom). Of course this > > requires some PHP code which will retrieve data from DB and display it. > > Firstly, designers design appearance of the page (in pure HTML/css) and > then > > coders re-code that page embedding pieces of PHP code. What I want to do > is > > to make this process as easy as possible for designers/coders. I am > familiar > > with XML and XSLT, but in "practise" never used XSL to transform XML... > > > > What do you suggest? > > Waiting for your suggestions. > > > > M.Mamedov > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ignatius Reilly" <ignatius.reilly@xxxxxxx> > > To: "Dan Hewins" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:03 PM > > Subject: Re: multi-language site > > > > > > > I would not consider a DB-based design. > > > > > > I use two approaches (sometimes mixed): > > > > > > 1. Write content in XML files (one per language) and transform them with > > > XSLT. This is nice for mostly content-based sites. > > > > > > 2. Write the complete application in English and translate it with the > > > excellent PHP gettext() extension. Makes it fast, efficient and very > cheap > > > to maintain. A better option for web applications. > > > > > > In any case the user's language must be stored in a session variable. > > > > > > HTH > > > Ignatius > > > > > > _________________________ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan Hewins" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <php-db@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 18:50 > > > Subject: multi-language site > > > > > > > > > > Forgive me if this is pedestrian or has been covered before. I'm new > > > > to the list and I haven't used PHP too much (yet). > > > > > > > > Here's my question: > > > > > > > > I'm looking to use PHP for an upcoming site project where the site > > > > needs to be in either English or Spanish. Would PHP be a good > approach? > > > > I was envisioning having a database with every text bit and image with > > > > text in it in two columns, one for English, and one for Spanish. Then > > > > each web page would reference some kind of global variable (a cookie?) > > > > to determine whether to pull the images and text from the English > > > > column or the Spanish column. Does this sound like a good approach? Is > > > > PHP capable of something like this? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help or suggestions you can give. > > > > > > > > Dan Hewins > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
