Question - if I stop MySql using WinMySqladmin on NT4.0, will I be able to completely backup the data directory or do I need to do something else? This is a commercial application that I need to backup, so it's mighty darned important. Any help is appreciated. Robin 'Sparky' Kopetzky Black Mesa Computers/Internet Service Grants, NM 87020 -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php