Looks like the first question was answered correctly, for the second one look at the ltrim and rtrim functions. $var = "rrrr "; $var = rtrim($var); echo ":$var:"; output is :rrrr: Gary Every Sr. UNIX Administrator Ingram Entertainment (615) 287-4876 "Pay It Forward" mailto:gary.every@ingramentertainment.com http://accessingram.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Dahl [mailto:dmbserver@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:11 AM > To: php-db@lists.php.net > Subject: Reading from a file > > > I need to read from a file that is tab delimited. Is there > anyway to specify that it reads between each tab and that is > it. I know fread() uses bytes to figure out what to read but > that isn't very practical in my case. > > Also, how do I get rid of any white space at the end of a > variable if there is some once it is read in? > > - Rick >