The second two sites are almost definitely Nuke jobs. You could take a glimpse at the code and you'd know right away. If you want some good nuke theme sites, check phpnuke.org for resources, or do a Google search. One of my favourites (from when I had to use nuke for a project) is mtechnik.net. I won't "burn" you this time, but try to make sure your future posts to this list are actually related to database stuff. Thanks. Edward Dudlik Becoming Digital www.becomingdigital.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve B." <stylinsty@yahoo.com> To: <php-db@lists.php.net> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2003 17:44 Subject: PHP web templates? Hi I'm working on the site http://www.handheldwarez.com I really like these sites style of table cells and borders etc... http://tribes.sierra.com/ http://www.planetrenegades.com/modules.php?name=Web_Links&l_op=MostPopular http://www.tribes2maps.com/ I've seen PHP nuke templates and am thinking that is what these sites are? Does anyone have a favorite open source template spot? I'd like a nice metal look like those sites. In the past I took graphics from php nuke free site and make my own tablecell.php that prints nice boxes. That is in use at http://www.northcountyrc.com if you wonder what I'm talking about. Please don't burn me I'm newb and have little art skill but decent photoshop knowledge. Any help, links is much appreciated thanks! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php