Re: Credit Card Info & Cryptography

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> Well.. Isn't that the ideal.
>
> I agree in theory, however, not all clients are willing to shell for the
> Payment Processor Services if they are just starting ou tin e-commerce
> and don't know what kind of volume to expect.

They aren't that expensive and usually come with all of the scripts you need
to implement it.

> Thery is wonderful, however, practicle must preside.

Hmmm, that's funny. I would think that _security_ must preside. Maybe I run
a different business than you do.

---John Holmes...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1LT John W. Holmes [mailto:holmes072000@charter.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:33 PM
> To: Ryan Jameson (USA); php-db@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re:  Credit Card Info & Cryptography
>
>
> When ever I see "easy", "encrypt", and "credit card" in the same
> sentence, it makes me worry.
>
> Don't store credit card numbers. Charge them once and don't save it
> anywhere.
>
> ---John Holmes...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Jameson (USA)" <RJameson@usa.ibs.org>
> To: <php-db@lists.php.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:20 PM
> Subject: RE:  Credit Card Info & Cryptography
>
>
> Since your goal is to encrypt the card number in the database you'll
> naturally need a way to decrypt it as well. At that point it seems your
> concern is that your database will be compromised. That can be avoided
> easily by creating a single private key and using your own algorithm to
> encrypt based on that key. The only catch is, if the code that does the
> encrypting is compromised, and the database is compromised, then the
> numbers are compromised. My basic point is, your need is not the same as
> what PGP addresses in that PGP addresses the more difficult problem of
> passing data between 2 entities. Your requirement is very simple to
> address; 1. write a simple compiled module with an embedded key, 2. keep
> that key in a safe place, and 3. write another module to decrypt, all it
> needs is the key. This is similar to what was done with DVDs, just don't
> allow your encryption algorithms to be compromised. You can put the
> source code in the same place as your key, you can use a code scrambler
> when you compile, and you should already have your server secure
> already. Again, my point is, this is easy because the same entity that
> encrypts is doing the decrypt. Hope this helps.
>
> <>< Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doaldo Navai Junior [mailto:doaldo@triunfo-bsb.com.br]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:53 PM
> To: php-db@lists.php.net; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject:  Credit Card Info & Cryptography
>
>
> Suppose I sell some products online and get user's credit card info via
> SSL connection. Isn't there any method (free, preferably) of ASSYMETRIC
> (Public
> key) cryptography I can use with PHP to store this data in a db?? Or is
> there any other good option instead of this?
>
> TIA,
> Doaldo
>
>
>
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