Re: Separating content from style

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Here's a question relating to Smarty. I am under the impression that the 
purpose of a three-teir implementation is to reduce (ideally eliminate) 
any PHP code from the HTML templates, thus allowing specialization and 
easier maintainability. However, in some of the examples given in the 
Smarty Quickstart guide 
(http://www.phpinsider.com/php/code/Smarty/QUICKSTART), there appears to 
be much more Smarty 'code' than HTML. Does this not defeat the purpose? 
Does this not add unnecesary complexity? Weren't we trying to eliminate 
this by using Smarty?

--Dave

Peter J. Schoenster wrote:

>On 9 Oct 2002 at 17:48, Dave Smith wrote:
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>>I agree that it is always good practice to use good design even for
>>small projects, because they almost invariably turn into large projects
>>if you don't. ;)
>>
>>This has been some great info. I appreciate it. Can someone explain what
>>the purpose of a template engine is and possibly draw up a simple
>>diagram of how one might work as it relates to DB-related projects?
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>>
>
>The answer to this question goes beyond any language. I've done this in 
>Perl and my apps can use either the Great Template::Toolkit or the 
>esteemed HTML::Template. I have a Viewer class which receives the DATA 
>(the DATA) and a request for a template handler (TT or HT in my cases 
>but could be more) and the Viewer than manage the manipulation of the 
>data with how the particular template system uses the data.
>
>You can see an example of the above here:
>
>http://www.smartarchitectures.com/projects/
>
>The default view uses TT, you can click on Simple and you will get the 
>original HT templates. You can click on ViewSkel so see the template 
>and DATA used to create the view.
>
>I did that quite awhile ago. I've done a few apps with Smarty now. I 
>think Smarty is pretty darn good. Got nearly everything I want.
>
>Why a templating system? Because I find it much easier to build, to 
>debug and to evolve an application that has a clean structure. Never 
>mind needing to update the whole design. All this talk of "skins" in 
>most PHP stuff drives me nuts. They are not skins, they have no 
>template system, it's a hodegepodge that will drive any efficient 
>minded person insane :):) ... been doing a lot of work on other systems 
>in PHP to get paid. I've also been writing some fresh apps using Smarty 
>and it's a pleasure. Clients are amazed at how easily I can make 
>changes ONCE (very important) once I've got the layout (the blueprint 
>if you will) of my class structure. I use PEAR as well. The DB is good. 
>
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>Peter
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